Carmine Lucchese's Ban "Appeal"

[Johnny Roast Beef]

Steam Name: johnny roast beef
Your SteamID32(You can obtain this from steamid.io):
Your Character Name: Carmine Lucchese

Ban Length: 1 Week
Banning Staff Member (@AdminName to mention the staff member): @Shimax ツ

Ban Reason: 2x RDM, Player Disrespect, Unacceptable Behavior (idk what this means but I assume it's player dis but reworded)
Unban Reason: The RDM Ban is valid, what I did was not acceptable within the bounds of the rules. I will explain why we did it really quickly, today members of Monolyft have been following members of my organization around all day constantly mugging and raiding them to the point where we can't even play on the server and enjoy it. Multiple members of my org are new players and are unable to experience the good of the server due to these people consistently harassing members of my org, within the bounds of the rules, with no provocation or reason. These people get away with all issues with verbal warnings at the maximum, whereas members of my org will do similar rule infractions and earn warning points as well as temporary bans. I don't know if there is an implicit bias of any sort, but it seems to happen very often. Anyways, the issue that set me and the two other members of the incident over the edge was when we tried to do some RP with 3 other orgs on the server in the form of a sitdown/meeting, where the members of the other org, Monolyft, decided to falsely ticket every single one of our cars after they pushed them into the road with their cars and gave us "illegal parking." Even with the number of witnesses we had, there was apparently nothing we could do. When we tried to appeal these tickets, they were all denied due to the fact that Monolyft wanted us to lose money on false pretenses. We left the base after the incident my friends and org allies began to move to a nearby base in which they were immediately followed by Monolfyt members in the same Police Department and they immediately sent detectives to search the base and get a warrant, clearly targeting our org for no reason. It is clear that they are saying without saying it that they do not want us on this server anymore, you win, we will go since the server is no longer enjoyable to any of us. All 20 of us unanimously agreed that the server has deteriorated from an RP server like it was back on Paralake, Florida, and Rockford into a GTA Five server. I know there are many people in this community that agree with me. Groups like these are the reason your server is rapidly losing players, we all remember when the server never hit under 100 players on average during the night and afternoon. An example of this is my friend Hex Kizak, Hex is a very well-liked member of this community a very popular arms dealer in your server and he brings a lot of positivity to everyone who encountered him, Hex came to me and our friends and told us he no longer wants to play on the server, after being followed and rammed by a police officer then both of him give tickets and laugh then drive away, these two being members of Monolyft. This is Hex's favorite server, and when I heard he no longer enjoys playing his favorite server, it sent me over the edge and I did what I did to whoever handles this application, your server is an incredibly made server and I am proud of you for making it this well, the community that has been cultivated within this incredible server, completely destroys the reputation that it has and we will no longer be playing, and we are not the first nor last of the people to make this decision. Move the server into a PVP category, because there is no more RP anymore with people who constantly try to destroy it. Obviously, not all Monolyft members are like this, but a vast majority are. Moving on to the player disrespect, I don't understand how I could be mean to a member of this group during one admin sit and get in trouble for it, where these people are consistently toxic to groups like ours and Amout in character, OOC, and face no punishment whatsoever, the worst being a 1-hour blacklist and they immediately start doing it again. Was what I said wrong and against the rules, yes, but I'm only throwing back what we take every day, I understand that this may be appealed, and Shimax I do not hold this against you as the rules were broken, this is really here to give my full explanation to why it happened, hopefully, you can sympathize with my friends and it will not happen to anyone else, you are one of the few remaining admins that still try, and for that, I thank you and the other active admins for ensuring my friends have had a good time while we were here, for nothing in return. Whether I am unbanned or not is not my concern, I hope I can be, but the reality is that soon the little interest I have left in this server will be drained, and we will not be returning.

Personally, I could take what Monolyft could give and I let it brush over me, the corny jokes and constant toxicity was one thing. But this has evolved into an obsession with making my friends' time on the server miserable. I don't know what we did or said to deserve it, but if one of us did say something I apologize.

You win Monolyft, it is clear you do not want us here and will not let us enjoy our time, so we will no longer be in your way. For us it is a sad day, for you, it is just another group gone. If you're trying to kill this community, you're doing a hell of a job. You and "FragRP" are to blame. I apologize if this is an unorthodox appeal, but I have been holding this in for a while. I do not deny any of the infractions, I just hope that you can forgive me based on my explanation.

Time of Occurrence: 3-4 AM I don't know
Additional members involved/witnessing: You can ask any member of my organization, or Ling's Organization to verify the explanation I have said above. As for the RDM itself, there is video of it that you can see I assume there is a video of the disrespect too if you dig deep enough.
Read, understood, and followed ban appeal rules?: I understood, I do not know if I followed them with the above explanation.

Thank You

 

[Johnny Roast Beef]

ID: STEAM_0:0:104958683
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[Skojen]

This thread is becoming a circus, so it is locked for review.

 

[Shimax ツ]

Good evening, @Johnny Roast Beef

Apologies for not replying sooner, I felt it'd be best to take a bit of time away to clear my head before handling this so that my judgement is the best it can be.

I appreciate how much effort has gone into this appeal, and therefore will rightly put the same or more effort into my response for you to fully understand my reasoning here.

Your ban was part of a 3 person ban, all of whom were in the same org (if I remember correctly) because of the same reason. I told you all the same thing. If you are feeling targeted in anyway, you need to talk to staff or take some time away from the server (without getting yourselves banned). The disconnect button is always available unless you're in RP of course.

I understand the frustrations of having people come after you non-stop for hours to days on end, as this happened to me before many times. If you were to disconnect while dead due to this, I would tolerate that much more than you starting to shoot and them for invalid reasons then proceed to clog up OOC with disrespectful comments and to some degree although to a lesser extent, in the sit.

What I do not tolerate full-stop is someone ruining other people's RP and causing them to experience the same frustrations even if they did break rules. The server has features to allow for you to report rulebreaks for this reason. Your ban was so long for this reason. You knew very well what you were doing, even if not thinking straight.

Now that I've given some context, I'll address some of the points brought up in your appeal.

The RDM Ban is valid, what I did was not acceptable within the bounds of the rules

I appreciate your honesty here, although you knew what you were doing was against the rules. That's the main cause for the lengthy ban.

today members of Monolyft have been following members of my organization around all day constantly mugging and raiding them to the point where we can't even play on the server and enjoy it.

This is a rulebreak that is taken very seriously. Constant targeting of the same individuals to the point where it becomes unfair, annoying and unenjoyable is unacceptable as it defies the purpose of a game. You should have made a report or disconnected when you started to stop enjoying it.

These people get away with all issues with verbal warnings at the maximum, whereas members of my org will do similar rule infractions and earn warning points as well as temporary bans.

I'm almost certain this isn't the case unless they're different people with different records. If you believe some staff are being biased, bring it up to them over discord/forums or in a staff report. Most staff members will be accepting of criticism.

Monolyft, decided to falsely ticket every single one of our cars after they pushed them into the road with their cars and gave us "illegal parking." Even with the number of witnesses we had, there was apparently nothing we could do. When we tried to appeal these tickets, they were all denied due to the fact that Monolyft wanted us to lose money on false pretenses. We left the base after the incident my friends and org allies began to move to a nearby base in which they were immediately followed by Monolfyt members in the same Police Department and they immediately sent detectives to search the base and get a warrant, clearly targeting our org for no reason.

Almost all of this is reportable and we highly suggest you do so. I feel that if you had reported most if not all of this, you wouldn't have resorted to breaking the rules in return.

I don't understand how I could be mean to a member of this group during one admin sit and get in trouble for it, where these people are consistently toxic to groups like ours and Amout in character, OOC, and face no punishment whatsoever, the worst being a 1-hour blacklist and they immediately start doing it again.

I evidently can't speak for why they haven't been punished in the past, however you did add several rude and disrespectful comments in OOC during the sit that led to this decision.


To conclude this response, I feel that you were banned based primarily on the fact that you didn't use the report functions as much as you should have. No staff member will become irritated or hold a grudge against you for submitting a report. Even if you hold a distrust for certain staff members, perhaps the satisfaction of knowing that your actions caused the punishment of someone you don't particularly get on with will be sufficient to divert you away from rulebreaks yourself out of days or weeks of frustration building.

I'm not saying that the appeal is out of the window, but I want to know if you as an individual can understand that disconnecting from the server is a far better alternative to breaking rules and getting yourself banned.
I'll give you 24 hours to convince me that this kind of event will not repeat itself and that if you are caught attempting or succeeding in the same task, you will be given a ban of far greater length.

Regards,
Shimax

 

[Johnny Roast Beef]

I agree my actions taken were not the actions that should have been taken, I should've gone up the chain of command. However, and this does not justify what I did, I did it in respect of my friends who are new and do not record their sessions with GeForce experience the way I do, so I knew I was going to get the usual "no evidence, can't help you", which I understand. I know that you cannot take witnesses unless this has been changed, but every person who was present in our meeting, which is over 15 of us, can vouch for the fact that we were being falsely ticketed, some members were even shot upon leaving for no reason as well as arrested on the basis of "drugs", which I heard over the radio after going on cop to ask what happened, considering we had no drugs in the base and it was purely rented for the purpose of a 15-minute meeting, it was clearly targeting as I can assure if you asked Rob Monster (chief at the time) as well as the rest of the PD why they were there, they would not be able to provide a reason. I was upset about the way my friends are being treated and took it into my own hands, which in hindsight was the wrong thing to do.

This is an isolated incident, I have not done anything like this in the past, I cannot do anything to give you a reason to trust you, so all I can say is I will not do it again, my word is all I can give you.

I appreciate this opportunity if you are willing to give me one.

 

[Shimax ツ]

Alright, I appreciate your maturity in accepting wrongdoing in this appeal. However, I do not feel comfortable immediately allowing access for you to return as you wish. Here's what I'll do:

I ask that you do not rejoin for the next 24 hours, that'll give you enough time to calm down and regather your thoughts and set new goals for when you return as well as catch up on the rules yourself if you feel necessary.

For this reason, your ban will be reduced so that you may join again in 24 hours however you will be scrutinized much more heavily in admin sits as well as held to a higher standard and punished much more severely. Few people are given these sorts of chances and as such we wouldn't want anyone taking advantage of such.

Do you agree to the terms of the ban appeal?

 

[Johnny Roast Beef]

I understand, at this time I will make the player report and do things the right way, I did have a video of the incident, but I did not want anyone banned or warned, but considering it is clear that it is the only right thing to do.

I will not return until 5:00 PM (US EST) tomorrow unless told otherwise by you or a higher-ranking staff member. If you would like to see the report and one of the many instances of what set me over the edge it will be under Guiseppe's report.

Thank You and have a good rest of the night.

 

[Shimax ツ]

Appeal Accepted
Appeal has been reduced to the given time. You will be able to rejoin the server 24 hours from this message. Should you have any questions, concerns or troubles connecting to the server after your ban expires, do not hesitate to reach out to me on discord Shimax ツ#3985. Additionally, if you feel I could've handled anything differently, I'm always accepting of feedback. Finally, if you feel anything was handled unjustly, feel free to make a staff report for review by management.​