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SIRDINGUS

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Your Steam Name: SIRDINGUS
Your Steam ID:STEAM_0:0:170999665
Your Character Name (If Applicable): John Johnson


Admin being reported: (Tag by writing @ before their forum name) Im actually reporting two admins for an unfair warning point and the other for lying in a sit. @Drew


Reason for Report: So my friends were getting held up by a officer with a super 90 and i pulled my gun and started to shoot at him. After this all happened i was brought to a sit and i was told from Green Gatorade Water Bottle that Drew told him that he was just trying to see if they had illegal stuff on them. But he was forced them out the car at gun point, and i thought this was initiation so i killed him. I think he was lying in the sit because my friends told me that the officer was trying to force them out the car to arrest them.
Time of Occurrence: 11:55 02/10/2019
Evidence to support your claim: https://plays.tv/video/5c610e57a60d7a95cf/im-quiting-the-server i didn't upload the whole clip because you cant really hear them talking anyways. But if you would like to see the whole admin sit i can re-upload the clip.
Additional members involved/witnessing: Johny Narco (the guy that was in the car)

Also i was wondering if i could get my warning points removed
 
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[AOA] Lyrical

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So we basically raided subs #2 and mister Danny Boy/Donny Boy was running around outside the house looting dead bodies. I tried to kill him through the window but he hid behind a tree. After the cops showed up, mister Danny Boy ran up to the cop and was making a report on me to the officer. I over head him yelling for the officer, so I knew right away he was reporting us. He also was pointing at me with his Phys Gun before the officer approached the yellow BRZ. The officer walked over to Tyler's Brz and pointed his weapon at me and said he need the man with the black trench coat to get out(me). As I was getting out the car John as you can see shot him in the back. The Cops were already responding to there 911 call so the officer knew it was a code red situation.
 

Green Gatorade Water Bottle

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Hello SIRDINGUS, if you look at this video: https://streamable.com/tl8pz the reason why I gave you the warning point is because your reason for killing Drew was invalid due to you killing him as a first resort and acting very "triggerhappy." In the video that I posted, Drew is not initiating an arrest on any of the members in the vehicle (he is simply telling one of them to exit the vehicle). Also, Drew does not see that they are visibly carrying illegal weapons or visibly doing illegal activities. Furthermore, Drew was in no way a direct threat your life or any of their lives in that current situation.

For this to be deemed valid in my opinion it would have been better for you to wait until you see Drew visibly arrest one of the members in the vehicle, have Drew call in for backup, or have Drew witness them be in possession of illegal items. Based on these reasons that I listed then I would feel that is appropriate for you to kill Drew in that situation, but due to none of these things happening within the video I had to deem it as being RDM and you being to haste in killing Drew.
 

SIRDINGUS

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Hello SIRDINGUS, if you look at this video: https://streamable.com/tl8pz the reason why I gave you the warning point is because your reason for killing Drew was invalid due to you killing him as a first resort and acting very "triggerhappy." In the video that I posted, Drew is not initiating an arrest on any of the members in the vehicle (he is simply telling one of them to exit the vehicle). Also, Drew does not see that they are visibly carrying illegal weapons or visibly doing illegal activities. Furthermore, Drew was in no way a direct threat your life or any of their lives in that current situation.

For this to be deemed valid in my opinion it would have been better for you to wait until you see Drew visibly arrest one of the members in the vehicle, have Drew call in for backup, or have Drew witness them be in possession of illegal items. Based on these reasons that I listed then I would feel that is appropriate for you to kill Drew in that situation, but due to none of these things happening within the video I had to deem it as being RDM and you being to haste in killing Drew.
He was threatening my friends life by pointing the firearm at them demanding that he exits the vehicle. Am i not aloud to defend my friends!
If he didn't threaten my friend with the shotgun then i wouldn't have killed him! whatever happened to initiation
 

[AOA] Lyrical

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The officer was responding to their 911 call. He knew there was illegal activity going on lol.I heard Danny loud and clear report us to the officer outside the house as we were leaving. I ran to tylers car, where the officer approached me for what reason? lol
 

SIRDINGUS

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KoS is valid if you have a valid reason to hurt/eliminate somebody; the reason however can't be from your previous death

My friends just got done raiding that house and the officer was responding to the call and he knew that they had illegal items and guns on them. So he approached my friend at gun point and demanded he get out the vehicle.
How is that not a valid reason to shoot him? please explain
 
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Kent

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I see no evidence of misconduct in any of the evidence posted.

I am very tired of seeing staff reports for alleged abuse when no one abused their powers. In your video, you pulled your firearm and were infact very trigger happy. This situation could have been handled better in RP. Instead you equipped your gun and went to firing.

Initiation does not exist on our server anymore, and never has. You can kill a cop if you deem them a threat, or if they hurt you or attacked you first, or you have a proper RP reason. But killing should be carried out sensibly and should not be the first resort in any situation. If the case was true, that Drew was only checking for illegal contraband, then yeah you could have flee'd or drove off and started a police chase. Or hell, you could have pulled your gun and told him to put his hands up, if he failed to comply then you could have killed him. But the fact you drew your gun and went immediately to shooting makes me trust Green Gatorade's side a lot more.

For this to be deemed valid in my opinion it would have been better for you to wait until you see Drew visibly arrest one of the members in the vehicle, have Drew call in for backup, or have Drew witness them be in possession of illegal items. Based on these reasons that I listed then I would feel that is appropriate for you to kill Drew in that situation
This is pretty much case in point for me. And honestly, this situation was handled poorly on all sides, but I do not see how Green Gatorade acted in poor faith, or why in the world Drew is being reported when he did jack all.

Staff reports are for actual legitimate cases of staff utilizing their powers to hurt players, hurt the community, and use their powers for their own personal gain to push their own agenda. If you can make a report where one of these points is hit, then yeah you'll have a case. But to make a report like this, have us sift through unprofessional and otherwise negligent posts, and watch videos where the story is cut and all we can see is very minimal information, then how are we to act on this? I hope you don't run off assuming another staff member got away with it, but this report has absolutely nothing that can be used to prove that either Drew or Roger misused their powers.

Concluded.
 
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