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Jar Of Mayonnaise

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In-Game Name: Maximilian Kugels
Steam Name: Dream.SandMan
SteamID: STEAM_0:0:92326790

Date and time of loss: about 11:45 PST
What happened: got in a gunfight and dropped 2 dudes 2 kids mingegrabbed there guns one got banned for not complying the other lost it so broheim told me to make a refund request

What do you need refunded: 2x Thompsons
Evidence: @Broheim
 

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Pretty much what happen was me and my crew of 2 other people were in the forest by the barn and was saw maximus getting mugged so we took out the guy mugging him with one headshot and proceeded towards him with plans to mug him. Then the crew that was mugging max started shooting at me and my crew from down the road so we got into a gunfight. I ran behind the silo's and maximus came around with his gun and didn't shoot me but instead was shooting at the other crew down the road. One of the guys came around the silo and max shot him and then yelled "GRAB HIS GUN" so I went over to his body and grabbed his gun. I was the ONLY person next to Max at this time and I was probably 5 feet away in the same gunfight as he was. I still was getting shot at so I fired some more rounds at the people shooting me and ran from the area.

10 minutes later I get pulled into an admin sit for apparently mingegrabbing the gun even though Max said in voice chat to grab the gun off of the body. Max even admitted in the admin sit to saying he did say to grab the gun but he wanted it after the fight. I said too bad that's an ingame problem you should deal with INGAME not an OOC one by calling me into an admin sit. The admin told me to give the gun back even though Max himself said he had said to grab the gun. I said No, it's Max's IG fault for yelling to pick up the gun I picked up.

From the server rules

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You may not loot a corpse during a gunfight if you are not directly involved in that situation.
  1. Lootbags may be looted by uninvolved parties after a minimum of 60 seconds after the gunfight.
  2. Police are allowed to confiscate illegal belongings of these corpses, regardless of their involvement.
"

I was directly involved in the gunfight as I was shooting at the same people Max was, you can check the logs and see I killed people & did damage to others In this same timeframe as this gunfight went on.

From https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/ban-appeal.12585/
 

Jar Of Mayonnaise

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you got banned
Pretty much what happen was me and my crew of 2 other people were in the forest by the barn and was saw maximus getting mugged so we took out the guy mugging him with one headshot and proceeded towards him with plans to mug him. Then the crew that was mugging max started shooting at me and my crew from down the road so we got into a gunfight. I ran behind the silo's and maximus came around with his gun and didn't shoot me but instead was shooting at the other crew down the road. One of the guys came around the silo and max shot him and then yelled "GRAB HIS GUN" so I went over to his body and grabbed his gun. I was the ONLY person next to Max at this time and I was probably 5 feet away in the same gunfight as he was. I still was getting shot at so I fired some more rounds at the people shooting me and ran from the area.

10 minutes later I get pulled into an admin sit for apparently mingegrabbing the gun even though Max said in voice chat to grab the gun off of the body. Max even admitted in the admin sit to saying he did say to grab the gun but he wanted it after the fight. I said too bad that's an ingame problem you should deal with INGAME not an OOC one by calling me into an admin sit. The admin told me to give the gun back even though Max himself said he had said to grab the gun. I said No, it's Max's IG fault for yelling to pick up the gun I picked up.

From the server rules

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You may not loot a corpse during a gunfight if you are not directly involved in that situation.
  1. Lootbags may be looted by uninvolved parties after a minimum of 60 seconds after the gunfight.
  2. Police are allowed to confiscate illegal belongings of these corpses, regardless of their involvement.
"

I was directly involved in the gunfight as I was shooting at the same people Max was, you can check the logs and see I killed people & did damage to others In this same timeframe as this gunfight went on.

From https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/ban-appeal.12585/

you got banned this is a refund request not a ban appeal
 

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Just adding more context to the situation as I was involved
 

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Pretty much what happen was me and my crew of 2 other people were in the forest by the barn and was saw maximus getting mugged so we took out the guy mugging him with one headshot and proceeded towards him with plans to mug him. Then the crew that was mugging max started shooting at me and my crew from down the road so we got into a gunfight. I ran behind the silo's and maximus came around with his gun and didn't shoot me but instead was shooting at the other crew down the road. One of the guys came around the silo and max shot him and then yelled "GRAB HIS GUN" so I went over to his body and grabbed his gun. I was the ONLY person next to Max at this time and I was probably 5 feet away in the same gunfight as he was. I still was getting shot at so I fired some more rounds at the people shooting me and ran from the area.

10 minutes later I get pulled into an admin sit for apparently mingegrabbing the gun even though Max said in voice chat to grab the gun off of the body. Max even admitted in the admin sit to saying he did say to grab the gun but he wanted it after the fight. I said too bad that's an ingame problem you should deal with INGAME not an OOC one by calling me into an admin sit. The admin told me to give the gun back even though Max himself said he had said to grab the gun. I said No, it's Max's IG fault for yelling to pick up the gun I picked up.

From the server rules

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You may not loot a corpse during a gunfight if you are not directly involved in that situation.
  1. Lootbags may be looted by uninvolved parties after a minimum of 60 seconds after the gunfight.
  2. Police are allowed to confiscate illegal belongings of these corpses, regardless of their involvement.
"

I was directly involved in the gunfight as I was shooting at the same people Max was, you can check the logs and see I killed people & did damage to others In this same timeframe as this gunfight went on.

From https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/ban-appeal.12585/

btw i said grab the gun over radio to Thomas because he was helping me fight thats why he wasnt going to get warned because it was a misconception until he refused to give it then he got banned for not complying with an administrator
 

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Never said it was.

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  1. Do not reply on a refund request thread if you have no involvement with the situation. Your messages will be removed and you could end up being warned depending on the severity of your posts.
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I was involved with the gun fight and admin situation that made you post this thread so I'm allowed to post here.
 

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i can confirm the guns were mingegrabbed
 

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Accepted, we have issued your Refund Request.
When you are next online, please go to the 'Refund Request' NPC located in the bank to collect your refund.
If you find any issues, please contact the Server Director or a member of the Community Management team.
 
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