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Your Steam Name: RJC
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:155511790
Your Character Name: Angel Verelli

Ban Length: 3days
Banning Staff Member (@AdminName to mention the staff member): @Lola Meid

Ban Reason: Boosting up players heads...
Time of Occurrence: 12pm 9/09/2017 (Time of ban)
Relevant Evidence:
Okay so to start off, there is no RULE where its say's I can or can't jump onto another players head and boost over a fence during a raid, If there is a rule and I have missed it then I'll go read it but I just went and checked all the rules and there isn't a single rule about it. So you're telling me that people don't boost each other over fences in real life, because RP is basically acting as if its real life, so I wouldn't be able to be boosted over a fence by a friend if I wanted to get away or get into a property, I've been told by multiple people that's this kind of thing is okay, I've even had a 20 minute admin sit with a CM about climbing fence because a long time ago I got report for (prop climbing with a car) and they said it was fine, so I don't see the problem with another player because they are not a prop, I didn't spawn him in did I. Also 3 day's for boosting over a fence is ridiculous, I've seen people do way worse and get warnings,
I know Gamz is just a moderator but he should know the rules, therefore I've asked one of my family members to ask if its okay and this if the reply he got:
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And it was just a one player, boost to hop over the front gate, I would never make a tower of people to get into someones property because that's just unrealistic.
Also this is the evidence they used, which I don't think they are aloud to use my own clips as evidence against me.
http://plays.tv/video/59b3416f7ae8be7a77/basically-solo-raid
Additional members involved/witnessing: I don't need any or have any.
 

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Player boosting is not allowed. We only allow climbing fences with vehicles.
 

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Player boosting is not allowed. We only allow climbing fences with vehicles.

Could you quote me the rule for it?
 

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There is no rule, we enforce it that way.
 

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There is no rule, we enforce it that way.

Then how are players meant to know about a rule that doesn't exist in the rules...?
 

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We specifically spoke about this during a staff meeting. Player boosting is against the rules, however for whatever reason that rule was not added. I'll add it right now.
 

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We specifically spoke about this during a staff meeting. Player boosting is against the rules, however for whatever reason that rule was not added. I'll add it right now.

So because it wasn't added I didn't break any rules?
 

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If we wrote down every single thing you are allowed or disallowed we would have a rulepage of 25 pages. Nobody would read through any of that.

It's not the first time we have mentioned that playerboosting is prohibited, especially you should know as a player that has been playing here for a long time.
 

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If we wrote down every single thing you are allowed or disallowed we would have a rulepage of 25 pages. Nobody would read through any of that.

It's not the first time we have mentioned that playerboosting is prohibited, especially you should know as a player that has been playing here for a long time.

So I'm getting mixed replies here, Gamz said its fine, then you've talked about it in a staff meeting but haven't told anyone, I've never seen anything about it in OOC or anything while in game, If you wrote down every single rule then maybe people won't break rules that they know are there, wouldn't that be the best thing to do? I would read them and other player will too if they don't wanna be banned..
 

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@RJC It's been told by @Dirty Harry and now by Stuvi above that it's not allowed.
I know it's frustrating when it's not written however there is a rule saying not everything has to be written in the rules, we use common sense (look below for the rule).

I will adress this in the meeting and discuss whether we should unban you or not but for now I decide not to because if it still remains correct I don't see the point in unban and ban you again.


''Your expected behaviour is not limited to the rules below. Use common sense, when in doubt if something you are doing might be against the rules, it could very well be. If you have any doubt, contact a staff member.'' - @Dirty Harry

This thread is on hold untill the decision made by a CM.
 

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Apparently it is known that player boosting is against the rules - otherwise you wouldn't have been reported and banned for it.

I disagree with a unban @ whoever decides to deal with this appeal.
 

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So @Gurrazor have contacted me and based on the miscommunication you will be unbanned. However we will have to discuss this in the staff meeting. Unbanned, Locked & Moved!
 
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