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Your Steam Name: Seine
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:47841933
Your Character Name: Nick Doe
Ban Length: 1 month 3 weeks 5 days
Banning Staff Member (@AdminName to mention the staff member): @Lola Meid
Ban Reason: Producing forged evidence, committing to fraud + metagaming
Time of Occurrence: 1:45PM 09/30/18
Relevant Evidence:
These were the charges laid against me: Producing forged evidence, commiting to fraud + metagaming, below are all the reasons why or why not these charges are valid.
On producing forged evidence
I did not have any reason to believe that the video was going to be submitted in a staff report, I thought it was just because he wanted to protect his privacy. Furthermore, at that time I did not have a full understanding of the rules so I could not say with confidence that his steam messages were against the rules, I was however aware that discord was not permitted.
Full discord conversation history here and here.
TRANSCRIPT
The Big Stick started a call.09/15/2018
The Big Stick09/15/2018
gotta screen share it
DanZeGreat started a call.09/15/2018
DanZeGreat09/15/2018
Hey man can you edit this for me
And Block out the steam messages for me
Thanks in advance
Steam Messages at 1:40-1:45ish
September 16, 2018
The Big Stick 09/16/2018
I'm not seeing anything here, send me the YT link, I'll see what I can do tomorrow
I don't know if you're trying to get my to go to this link but nothing seems to be here.
DanZeGreat 09/16/2018
my bad man
forgot to post
he link
the
September 17, 2018
The Big Stick 09/17/2018
Done tell me when you want to have a look
DanZeGreat started a call.09/17/2018
As you can see, from the discord conversations I had no reason to believe that the video was going to be used in a staff report nor did I have any reason to believe that it was being edited for any purpose other than to protect his privacy. Not to mention, I did not at any time bother to read what was being sent to and fro his steam.
On committing fraud
I was not the one who submitted the video evidence against Leon, I can't think of any reason for anyone to believe that I committed fraud as I did not at anytime misrepresent myself or the facts at hand, to say that I was deceiving someone by editing video and having him submit it in a different context is akin to blaming crayola if I write hate speech with their products. If anything, Hauptstadt should have been banned for fraud seeing as it was not included in the reasons for his ban.
On meta gaming
Discussing the editing of video evidence is hardly what I would call meta gaming and I think most would agree with me too.
However, I do admit to trying to meet Hauptstadt in game through steam so I accept this charge but I don't believe it warrants a 2 month ban.
Additional members involved/witnessing: @Major Lorne(Pmx)
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:47841933
Your Character Name: Nick Doe
Ban Length: 1 month 3 weeks 5 days
Banning Staff Member (@AdminName to mention the staff member): @Lola Meid
Ban Reason: Producing forged evidence, committing to fraud + metagaming
Time of Occurrence: 1:45PM 09/30/18
Relevant Evidence:
These were the charges laid against me: Producing forged evidence, commiting to fraud + metagaming, below are all the reasons why or why not these charges are valid.
On producing forged evidence
I did not have any reason to believe that the video was going to be submitted in a staff report, I thought it was just because he wanted to protect his privacy. Furthermore, at that time I did not have a full understanding of the rules so I could not say with confidence that his steam messages were against the rules, I was however aware that discord was not permitted.
Full discord conversation history here and here.
TRANSCRIPT
The Big Stick started a call.09/15/2018
The Big Stick09/15/2018
gotta screen share it
DanZeGreat started a call.09/15/2018
DanZeGreat09/15/2018
Hey man can you edit this for me
And Block out the steam messages for me
Thanks in advance
Steam Messages at 1:40-1:45ish
September 16, 2018
The Big Stick 09/16/2018
I'm not seeing anything here, send me the YT link, I'll see what I can do tomorrow
I don't know if you're trying to get my to go to this link but nothing seems to be here.
DanZeGreat 09/16/2018
my bad man
forgot to post
he link
the
September 17, 2018
The Big Stick 09/17/2018
Done tell me when you want to have a look
DanZeGreat started a call.09/17/2018
As you can see, from the discord conversations I had no reason to believe that the video was going to be used in a staff report nor did I have any reason to believe that it was being edited for any purpose other than to protect his privacy. Not to mention, I did not at any time bother to read what was being sent to and fro his steam.
On committing fraud
I was not the one who submitted the video evidence against Leon, I can't think of any reason for anyone to believe that I committed fraud as I did not at anytime misrepresent myself or the facts at hand, to say that I was deceiving someone by editing video and having him submit it in a different context is akin to blaming crayola if I write hate speech with their products. If anything, Hauptstadt should have been banned for fraud seeing as it was not included in the reasons for his ban.
On meta gaming
Discussing the editing of video evidence is hardly what I would call meta gaming and I think most would agree with me too.
However, I do admit to trying to meet Hauptstadt in game through steam so I accept this charge but I don't believe it warrants a 2 month ban.
Additional members involved/witnessing: @Major Lorne(Pmx)