Gregg Report.

[Zeke]

Your Steam Name: Zeke
Your Steam ID: STEAM_1:0:201043767
Your Character Name (If Applicable): Zeke


Admin being reported: (Tag by writing @ before their forum name) @Gregg


Reason for Report: Banned me without valid proof of accusations saying I was not involved in the gun fight when I was.
Time of Occurrence: 6/4/2018 Roughly 10:20PM
Evidence to support your claim: Rules of the server claim " You may not loot a corpse during a gunfight if you are not directly involved in that situation. " & I was role playing by helping the police by dragging their bodies to paramedics and I was originally a hostage at the beginning of the bank robbery but they let me go, and that's when I started to help the police and found a gun on a dead body so I was directly involved in the gun fight and I had a right to take the gun which means Gregg was in the wrong.
Additional members involved/witnessing: Tons of people saw me helping drag the bodies to the police but I dont know any of their names.

 

[Skye]

You can better try and make a Ban appeal. Gregg was within his right to punish you. In a ban appeal you could let him read your side of the story and maybe even get unbanned.

This staff report won't get you anywhere.

 

[Zeke]

@Skye He was not in his right to ban me he would not even hear my side of the story & sided with the donor over me because they were friends he just chose to believe the other guy over me that is not ban worthy and shows how biased he is there was no proof or evidence that backs up the claim on whether or not I was directly involved in the gun fight so my ban should be lifted and @Gregg should be punished.

 

[Gregg]

I asked you more than 20 times to return his item, as you obtained it illegitimately and the means and methods of obtaining this item was ruled as "Minge-grabbing". The fact I had to ask you 20 times, giving you more chances than I should have as a staff member, shows you really didn't care and were just doing it for the sake of argument.

I was the only staff and needed to move on to the other various tickets, and being held up for something this minuscule was just not fair to me in my eyes. I am not biased, nor do I know the individual. I don't even look to see if someone is premium or not, when I take their report there isn't some flashing red flag telling me he donated, everyone is the same in my eyes, someone who had their RP experience ruined by someone else breaking rules, and I intervened by handling it. The fact you make a claim like that is very saddening to see, as I do try to be as unbiased as I possibly can, since that is what is expected of staff in Monolith.

 

[Skye]

Gregg can check the logs, if you didn't participate in the gunfight, you're not allowed to pickup the loot (unless you steal it by roleplaying it).

I'm just saying, this report isn't going to get you anywhere, I advise you to make a ban appeal instead.

That's all I'm going to say here, I'll leave this to management.

 

[Zeke]

But I did not obtain it illegitimately, did you even read my post according to the rules I had full rights to pick up and take the item I was directly involved in the shooting.

 

[Gregg]

But I did not obtain it illegitimately, did you even read my post according to the rules I had full rights to pick up and take the item I was directly involved in the shooting.

You had no involvement with the gunfight and took an item that you did not do anything about to obtain, nor did you wait the 60 seconds as I explained numerous times in the sit. I wouldn't ask you to return the item unless I'm certain for a fact a rule was violated and the item would need to be returned, in which in this case, it needed to be returned. You desperately trying to argue and fight your way out of that led to your ban.

 

[Zeke]

You had no involvement with the gunfight and took an item that you did not do anything about to obtain, nor did you wait the 60 seconds as I explained numerous times in the sit. I wouldn't ask you to return the item unless I'm certain for a fact a rule was violated and the item would need to be returned, in which in this case, it needed to be returned. You desperately trying to argue and fight your way out of that led to your ban.

Okay how the fuck would you know if I was involved or not you were not there and this is an extreme bias you basically just picked his story over mine in that situation neither side had proof I was involved and never ever said I was not involved so you are a liar and had no right to ban me I got the gun legitimately and no one had their role play experience ruined.

 

[Gregg]

Okay how the fuck would you know if I was involved or not you were not there and this is an extreme bias you basically just picked his story over mine in that situation neither side had proof I was involved and never ever said I was not involved so you are a liar and had no right to ban me I got the gun legitimately and no one had their role play experience ruined.

Again, to explain this from what I got.

I asked for both sides, I never once favored his side nor would I have. The whole reason I wanted the item returned is because from what I got you had no involvement with his death. You yourself didn't kill him. You were a third party who ran up and picked his guns up with the defense of "well i was helping the cops" but that isn't involvement between him and you. The person allowed, by our rules, to pick up the gun would have been his killer or those related to him/his gang or friends. You are a third party, meaning you MUST wait the full 60 seconds. You did not do this, and thus, you are not allowed to have the item you took. Meaning, as a staff member, I have to strip the weapon, returning it to him or not, you should not have the item. You decided, instead, to argue with me and refuse to cooperate. Being the only staff on with reports piling on me, I decided to expedite and issue a punishment as you refused to cooperate with a simple order in which you violated rules.

 

[Zeke]

You also rdmed me. Another reason that you were banned.

I never rdmed anyone and he never addressed me rdming anyone so I would have never had a chance to defend myself on why I killed you.

 

[Zeke]

Again, to explain this from what I got.

I asked for both sides, I never once favored his side nor would I have. The whole reason I wanted the item returned is because from what I got you had no involvement with his death. You yourself didn't kill him. You were a third party who ran up and picked his guns up with the defense of "well i was helping the cops" but that isn't involvement between him and you. The person allowed, by our rules, to pick up the gun would have been his killer or those related to him/his gang or friends. You are a third party, meaning you MUST wait the full 60 seconds. You did not do this, and thus, you are not allowed to have the item you took. Meaning, as a staff member, I have to strip the weapon, returning it to him or not, you should not have the item. You decided, instead, to argue with me and refuse to cooperate. Being the only staff on with reports piling on me, I decided to expedite and issue a punishment as you refused to cooperate with a simple order in which you violated rules.

Rules dont state I have to kill him they only state that if you are not at all involved in the gun fight then you cant pick up the gun I was involved so I can pick it up simple as that.

 

[Skye]

Locked for management to review

 

[Stuvi]

From what I've read it doesn't seem like you were involved in the situation at all, as you even said it yourself:

[...]I was originally a hostage at the beginning of the bank robbery but they let me go, and that's when I started to help the police and found a gun on a dead body so I was directly involved in the gun fight and I had a right to take the gun which means Gregg was in the wrong.

First of all, you're breaking FearRP by helping the police. You have no authority to assist the PD unless you are a detective or any other government employee such as FD or EMS. Civilians are supposed to stay away from shootouts at all times unless they're a party involved in the shooting. Hostages involving themselves by stealing a weapon and trying to help the police is FailRP.

Report denied.