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This isn't about frag RP. Stay on topic or this post will be locked.
I wanna talk about something everyone has definitely seen. The tension between staff and players:

I would love for this to be a safe place where maybe some issues could be resolved:

I'll begin- I firmly believe that staff have a natural tendency to disregard what players often say or complain about. They wanna come foward with an issue- but if a staff disagrees with the issue it is out of the park. This is the thing- there needs to be more communication that is uncensored between the community and staff. As a gaming community there shouldnt be such resentment between staff and players- but unfortunately its very prevalent on Monolith. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEPLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN SAY ANYTHING AND NOT GET IN TROUBLE

SILENCING THE MANY has only led to decreasing player amounts
 

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As previously Mentioned by stuvi but also feel free to express your concerns here.

There will be a Community Meeting this Saturday (16th of January) at 8PM GMT/3PM EST ( https://a.chronus.eu/199A790 ). Everyone is welcome to show up and they will have a chance to give their suggestions and feedback regarding several matters that are important to the community: development, events, staff, management, etc.
 
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@Damp Eggplant

We always value your feedback and suggestions, there should not be any tension between staff and players. Just as Stuvi said, you are welcome to post whatever you like, so long as you're within our community guidelines. If you're ever unsure about whether or not a post will violate community guidelines, you are always welcome to contact myself or any other forum staff for any advice. We are constantly looking for ways to improve interaction with the community, so feedback and suggestions are incredibly valuable.

I look forward to hearing more of your ideas in the Community Meeting this Saturday!

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I agree with a lot of points people bring up, it's just how they bring it up is the issue. if you use correct grammar and punctuation, so there is to not be any misinterpretations. And follow the basic rule of making a claim then providing evidence.
An example would be, "VDM is an issue on the server, this is due to the delay of driving making it a lot harder for even experienced players to control the vehicle. If the delay could be fixed, it would improve the server drastically." This server deals with communicating very formally with its rules, in my opinion. So rather than having a random player every 3 months post a poorly formatted post about this topic and its effects. Create a suggestion or feedback post with this in mind. If you do so in my opinion least, you'll be golden in my book!


I wanna talk about something everyone has definitely seen. The tension between staff and players:

I would love for this to be a safe place where maybe some issues could be resolved:

I'll begin- I firmly believe that staff have a natural tendency to disregard what players often say or complain about. They wanna come foward with an issue- but if a staff disagrees with the issue it is out of the park. This is the thing- there needs to be more communication that is uncensored between the community and staff. As a gaming community there shouldnt be such resentment between staff and players- but unfortunately its very prevalent on Monolith. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEPLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN SAY ANYTHING AND NOT GET IN TROUBLE

SILENCING THE MANY has only led to decreasing player amounts
I disagree with the thought that we naturally have resentment on players. When talking to players or staff members in-game I treat them no different. I am friends with more staff members than regular players, so if seen like that I could see that I treat other players differently. As for sits, it might seem like we side a lot with the staff member. But this is clearly due to that our entire job on the server sometimes is to enforce rules and know them. So, most of the time they go into sits they know what they're talking about. As for the forums, I already referred to them.

This was all in my opinion, so I would take it with a grain of salt. I do hope to see you at the community meeting!

Thanks,

hop1003
 

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I wanna talk about something everyone has definitely seen. The tension between staff and players:

I would love for this to be a safe place where maybe some issues could be resolved:

I'll begin- I firmly believe that staff have a natural tendency to disregard what players often say or complain about. They wanna come foward with an issue- but if a staff disagrees with the issue it is out of the park. This is the thing- there needs to be more communication that is uncensored between the community and staff. As a gaming community there shouldnt be such resentment between staff and players- but unfortunately its very prevalent on Monolith. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEPLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN SAY ANYTHING AND NOT GET IN TROUBLE

SILENCING THE MANY has only led to decreasing player amount
I don't think there's resentment, I think there's a lack of communication and at some point negligence. I'll be sincere, as of right now I don't think the management of the community is the best, censorship in the server is a thing, and even if you are respectful and say things with the best attitude either you get a punishment or you get kicked from the community definitely.

Punish me if you want, but first be truthful with yourselves, and I'm talking to community management in specific.
This is an open "secret", people just don't say it because they are afraid to get banned and probably I'm not the only one who thinks like this.
 
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Hello Damp Eggplant,

I understand the points you bring up in your post but you have to understand something that has been brought up in multiple replies above mine: those who are banned from our platforms and server is due to them breaking the rules. We do not remove players from our community for no reason, there always is a reason. We listen to the players (hence why we are having a community meeting) and do truly try to do what's best.

I don't disagree that a gaming community such as ours should be a safe place for people that just want to have fun and have a great time all around, but with that there are rules in place so the community doesn't spiral into chaos. When players go out of their way to disrespect and break the rules in place, it is clear they do not want to be apart of the community and therefore are removed for breaking them.

I hope to see you and the rest of the players who would like to voice their opinions at the community meeting this Saturday.

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I wanna talk about something everyone has definitely seen. The tension between staff and players:

I would love for this to be a safe place where maybe some issues could be resolved:

I'll begin- I firmly believe that staff have a natural tendency to disregard what players often say or complain about. They wanna come foward with an issue- but if a staff disagrees with the issue it is out of the park. This is the thing- there needs to be more communication that is uncensored between the community and staff. As a gaming community there shouldnt be such resentment between staff and players- but unfortunately its very prevalent on Monolith. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEPLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN SAY ANYTHING AND NOT GET IN TROUBLE

SILENCING THE MANY has only led to decreasing player amounts
Sometimes it isn't about censoring things, sometimes its about RP. In a situation where somebody thinks you are metagaming to find their location but you in fact in a perfectly in-character method got hold of their radio frequency found their location. How do you expect me to handle that sit? I am going to say this "no rule breaks were found and continue roleplay". I am not going to tell the other party that you have their radio freq because that would be unfair to you. However, you can imagine how livid the other party would be if they were CONVINCED that you were metagaming, even if you were not. I say this because it has happened before and I got a staff report written for it.

As far as disregarding how do you expect a staff member to handle a player targeting report exactly? How do you expect them to handle a report without appropriate evidence? You say "check the logs he raided us 4 times in the past 4 hours", maybe he just got lucky 4 times. You say "check the logs he just shot me for no reason and hes lying to you" all the logs say is that he shot you, logs don't tell us why he shot you. Most of the times a staff member isn't really hiding anything from you. Most of the times they can't tell you something because it wouldn't be fair to other players OR he can't do anything because he does not have sufficient evidence and his hands are tied. It is not fair to say that staff members have a natural tendency to disregard what players have to complain about especially when 90% of the things that are being disregarded are well out of their reach.

And what exactly do you mean "silencing the many?" are you talking about the people that mass rdm'd on our server and ruined the RP experience of other players? Or maybe you're talking about the cheaters that got caught red handed? Or are you talking about the people that target specific staff members because they don't like them or because they made a judgement call that they disagreed with a while ago? Because those are pretty much the only people we "silence" and even then, we really don't silence the last category all that often unless they start throwing insults around.

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That's how you start getting into personal attacks and insults. That is why these threads get locked and removed. Just because you cant see them doesn't mean our forum mods cant see them. A lot of the times, posts like these need to be very closely monitored because some people decide its ok to start calling staff members names and start being mean and vulgar for no reason. I've mentioned this before and I'll mention this again, as soon as this thread turns into a shit post against staff it will be locked. However, just like all the other posts. The thread will stay visible for the public eye to see (minus the shit posts).
 
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I agree with a lot of points people bring up, it's just how they bring it up is the issue. if you use correct grammar and punctuation, so there is to not be any misinterpretations. And follow the basic rule of making a claim then providing evidence.
An example would be, "VDM is an issue on the server, this is due to the delay of driving making it a lot harder for even experienced players to control the vehicle. If the delay could be fixed, it would improve the server drastically." This server deals with communicating very formally with its rules, in my opinion. So rather than having a random player every 3 months post a poorly formatted post about this topic and its effects. Create a suggestion or feedback post with this in mind. If you do so in my opinion least, you'll be golden in my book!



I disagree with the thought that we naturally have resentment on players. When talking to players or staff members in-game I treat them no different. I am friends with more staff members than regular players, so if seen like that I could see that I treat other players differently. As for sits, it might seem like we side a lot with the staff member. But this is clearly due to that our entire job on the server sometimes is to enforce rules and know them. So, most of the time they go into sits they know what they're talking about. As for the forums, I already referred to them.

This was all in my opinion, so I would take it with a grain of salt. I do hope to see you at the community meeting!

Thanks,

hop1003
I would like to point your attention towards numerous lengthy forum posts that were very well thought out but had some critique- instead of discourse, it would primarily consist of a staff responding with a snarky comment then locking the thread.

Punish me if you want, but first be truthful with yourselves, and I'm talking to community management in specific.
This is an open "secret", people just don't say it because they are afraid to get banned and probably I'm not the only one who thinks like this.
I 100% agree and this is what I was referring to in the resentment- everyone is afraid to talk- because we all no that ramifications come for little things

It is not fair to say that staff members have a natural tendency to disregard what players have to complain about especially when 90% of the things that are being disregarded are well out of their reach.
I think you misunderstood- I am not talking about players complaining about reports. Its players complaining about staff and the server as a whole

And what exactly do you mean "silencing the many?" are you talking about the people that mass rdm'd on our server and ruined the RP experience of other players? Or maybe you're talking about the cheaters that got caught red handed? Or are you talking about the people that target specific staff members because they don't like them or because they made a judgement call that they disagreed with a while ago? Because those are pretty much the only people we "silence" and even then, we really don't silence the last category all that often unless they start throwing insults around.
As can be acknowledged by all humans with common sense, everyone has an implicit bias and some show theirs more than others. I am one of the people that have been silenced in the past- I used to think I was the only one- but I soon discovered I wasn't. I am one of the few that isn't afraid to speak up. I alone have numerous incidents where I have made extremely lengthy forum posts, reports, etc. in which they have been closed or deleted without staff even taking a moment to absorb the information.

Also I notice that some staff like to target members on forums. I wont say who because I don't want to be banned- but there have been plenty of times that the second I post something it would be instantly denied or deleted.

Also- the staff community needs to acknowledge that they have to work through some problems. Instead- many believe that they think they are impeccable. It often comes to bite them back once the staff has resigned and only then does everyone realize how bad they were.

Here is an example of one of the worst staff encounters I have had:
One time I made a report on Ja1003(when he was admin) for using admin powers to revive himself after I killed him- Knight(then a senior admin) came to take my report. He immediately came into it attacking me. I told him that a player on forums had dmed me telling me that staff often tend to abuse their powers- and he gave some pretty damning evidence. I was kind of a noob so I told Knight about this- Knight demanded that I tell him the name of the player that sent me the information or else he would permaban me for "having confidential server information". I was scared so I told the name. The next day that player was perma banned for "hacking" by Knight.
 

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As can be acknowledged by all humans with common sense, everyone has an implicit bias and some show theirs more than others. I am one of the people that have been silenced in the past- I used to think I was the only one- but I soon discovered I wasn't. I am one of the few that isn't afraid to speak up. I alone have numerous incidents where I have made extremely lengthy forum posts, reports, etc. in which they have been closed or deleted without staff even taking a moment to absorb the information.
If you feel like you have been "silenced" then go ahead and make a staff report. And of course, the burden of evidence lies on you as it is only fair. Innocent until proven guilty. Again, just because you put a lot of effort into a forum post does not mean that you will get the expected results. Also, keep in mind that the staff member that handles your posts are not the only staff members that read your posts. I can give you multiple instances of when I felt that a staff member made an unjust call on a report or an appeal and I immediately spoke up about it. But you don't see that. Sometimes I make an impact and something gets done about it, other times I am out numbered and nothing gets changed. Just because you think that a staff member didn't absorb your post does not mean that they didn't. As a forum moderator myself I will often read posts all the way through to make sure that they are appropriate. Yes, that also means player reports, staff reports, and appeals. I keep track of those tricky reports and appeals as to make sure that a fair call was made on them.

Nobody is stopping you from speaking up, by all means, go ahead. I encourage it because I do it as well on an internal level. You can ask any one of our longer standing staff members: If I see something that I don't think is fair then I will let everybody and their mother know that it isn't fair @PMX. However, once it becomes a witch hunt, that is where the line gets drawn.


Also I notice that some staff like to target members on forums. I wont say who because I don't want to be banned- but there have been plenty of times that the second I post something it would be instantly denied or deleted.

If you feel like you are being targeted on the forums then go and make a staff report, again, with evidence. If you post something that is against our forum rules then of course it is going to get deleted and removed.


Also- the staff community needs to acknowledge that they have to work through some problems. Instead- many believe that they think they are impeccable. It often comes to bite them back once the staff has resigned and only then does everyone realize how bad they were.

Yet again you are making a claim without any substantial evidence. Most staff don't come back to the staff team not because of what they do during their time as staff but what they do AFTER they leave the staff team. @PMX @Tj


Here is an example of one of the worst staff encounters I have had:
One time I made a report on Ja1003(when he was admin) for using admin powers to revive himself after I killed him- Knight(then a senior admin) came to take my report. He immediately came into it attacking me. I told him that a player on forums had dmed me telling me that staff often tend to abuse their powers- and he gave some pretty damning evidence. I was kind of a noob so I told Knight about this- Knight demanded that I tell him the name of the player that sent me the information or else he would permaban me for "having confidential server information". I was scared so I told the name. The next day that player was perma banned for "hacking" by Knight.


I remember this situation but I do not remember the details exactly. I suggest you make a staff report on the forums next time. A staff member can take another staff members report on a player but a staff member should not be taking a players report on another staff member unless they are SD+. It makes it easier to handle if you post it on the forums rather than in-game. As for the "evidence" if it was leaked staff information then you can imagine that you could land yourself in trouble if you don't provide where you got that information from. Just like any other company, if you come across leaked internal information and you don't provide a supplier for said information then you can imagine a lawsuit coming your way. As for perma-banning you, an SA does not have that authority. Neither do they have the authority to ban a player for hacking. Perma bans and cheating bans are ONLY issued by SD+. Sometimes a staff member can run those bans ONLY with explicit permission from SD+ and as of recent they MUST cite the SD+ that authorized the ban. There is a system in place for cheating bans and you will not be banned for cheating unless we are certain without a doubt that you are guilty of cheating. We cannot tell you the methods we use for cheat detection cause that would defeat the purpose.


Again, you claim that you are being silenced yet I see none of that. Maybe if a staff member explained better why they made a decision that would help clear up some of the confusion.

P.S. If you were being silenced then this forum post would have been yeeted half way across the moon by now. But it is still here, because you are not silenced, because we value your input until it becomes a witch hunt.
 

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my biggest problem is the attitude some Cm's have with players. being insulted for no reason or giving infractions for the stuff they themselves do. we have all seen what im talking about and anyone that says something about it is usually silenced.
 
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my biggest problem is the attitude some Cm's have with players. being insulted for no reason or giving infractions for the stuff they themselves do. we have all seen what im talking about and anyone that says something about it is usually silenced.
Yeah Im not stirring drama but hypocrisy is a big problem imo
 

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What changes would you guys like to see that would inspire you to continue to abide by the rules and also enjoy your experience more or even apply for staff?
 

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If you feel like you have been "silenced" then go ahead and make a staff report.
See the thing about that- is all the community knows how futile the staff reports are. There have been many staff reports that have been in length and have had simple evidence and 99% of them are denied and the other 1% are talked to. What this means is that the community now knows that the staff are invincible and cannot be touched-therefore they do not have to abide by the rules- they are the rules.
If you feel like you are being targeted on the forums then go and make a staff report, again, with evidence. If you post something that is against our forum rules then of course it is going to get deleted and removed.

See the thing is player targeting would be impossible to report especially on these forums. I have literally seen a guy make a report on an SA and the SA responded that he will purposely neglect to help that player-again this staff and player will remain nameless as to protect myself and the player. Also I am not saying all CMS are bad I am just saying the CMs are legit untouchable- you cannot report them it is impossible. They are homies and they are at the top and they have no check on their power. Also with staff- I have noticed a lotttttt of hypocrisy. When they are banning you they do not refrain from assuming things or insinuating things, but when someone makes a staff report it can have 99.999% valid evidence. But that .001% of not shown evidence would be used to completely dismantle the case.
Yet again you are making a claim without any substantial evidence. Most staff don't come back to the staff team not because of what they do during their time as staff but what they do AFTER they leave the staff team
I can name at least 5 staff that are forum banned or perma banned. Its not like people change in two seconds so the fact that only after they are off the staff team are they acknowledged as bad people is what is concerning. Saying that they have a complete personality change after they leave staff is just not reasonable- considering the amount of staff this has occured with.
I remember this situation but I do not remember the details exactly. I suggest you make a staff report on the forums next time. A staff member can take another staff members report on a player but a staff member should not be taking a players report on another staff member unless they are SD+. It makes it easier to handle if you post it on the forums rather than in-game. As for the "evidence" if it was leaked staff information then you can imagine that you could land yourself in trouble if you don't provide where you got that information from. Just like any other company, if you come across leaked internal information and you don't provide a supplier for said information then you can imagine a lawsuit coming your way. As for perma-banning you, an SA does not have that authority. Neither do they have the authority to ban a player for hacking. Perma bans and cheating bans are ONLY issued by SD+. Sometimes a staff member can run those bans ONLY with explicit permission from SD+ and as of recent they MUST cite the SD+ that authorized the ban. There is a system in place for cheating bans and you will not be banned for cheating unless we are certain without a doubt that you are guilty of cheating. We cannot tell you the methods we use for cheat detection cause that would defeat the purpose.
The main point I was trying to point out is the blackmail portion with a staff member- like an IRS scam call he made me think that I was gonna get severly punished for something that was not wrong and he threatened to ban me. This brings me to another point. The fact that the word of staff is held as fact. I gurantee you if I made a staff report knight would have said something to frame me and I could do nothing about it. I would probably not be here on forums today.

P.S. If you were being silenced then this forum post would have been yeeted half way across the moon by now. But it is still here, because you are not silenced, because we value your input until it becomes a witch hunt.
This is interesting because this is not my first forum post addressing the topic yet if you searched you can not find any of my other ones. Maybe because they were deleted- and im pretty sure that is silencing
 

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Is fragging cops common because people are waiting for the PvP raid timer?
I would definetly say so- the majority of my rdm bans/ warning point and cop fragging is due to people wanting to shoot guns but they cant raid or mug due to timer.
 
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What would your raid? People who are basing? If the raid timer were to be lowered IMO, fewer people would be basing. So you would raid government buildings. I enjoy fragrp, but I enjoy asymmetric fragrp. I hate the holding of the same place over and over again. So lowering raid timer wouldn't do much. I think having better accessible raiding targets would be more enjoyable, like trucks or such.
No one bases anymore, because there is little do apart from fight/raid. If you base unless u are a big org u will be raided by loads of people. There needs to be more fun stuff, ppl dont engage in passive rp anymore because there is no incentive
 

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See the thing about that- is all the community knows how futile the staff reports are. There have been many staff reports that have been in length and have had simple evidence and 99% of them are denied and the other 1% are talked to. What this means is that the community now knows that the staff are invincible and cannot be touched-therefore they do not have to abide by the rules- they are the rules.

A staff report is to report a staff member abusing his powers. A staff report is not to punish a staff member for issuing out a punishment that you feel is unfair. Again, you are pulling out statistics from thin air and you are not backing anything up. Let us say, hypothetically, that a staff member did in fact break the internal staff guidelines. What do you suggest we do? You can get a talking to, a formal warning, probation, or removal from the staff team. If a staff member abuses his power in a very minor sense and is their first offense then they will get talked to or issued a formal warning. If a staff member abuses their power in a major sense (like mass unbanning, or mass rdming in noclip) then you will be swiftly removed from your position and/or banned from the server. Depends on the severity of the rulebreak. Demoting a staff member for a small breach in the rules is the same as perma banning a player for a simple case of RDM or breaking character. Doesn't make sense right? You say that a staff member does not receive punishment but that is NOT the case. I have been placed on probation before and I have been talked to. Most of the staff reports that get posted either have no evidence or have evidence that does not describe an abuse of power. Again, a staff report is not so you can challenge a staff members judgement call on a punishment you received.


See the thing is player targeting would be impossible to report especially on these forums. I have literally seen a guy make a report on an SA and the SA responded that he will purposely neglect to help that player-again this staff and player will remain nameless as to protect myself and the player. Also I am not saying all CMS are bad I am just saying the CMs are legit untouchable- you cannot report them it is impossible. They are homies and they are at the top and they have no check on their power. Also with staff- I have noticed a lotttttt of hypocrisy. When they are banning you they do not refrain from assuming things or insinuating things, but when someone makes a staff report it can have 99.999% valid evidence. But that .001% of not shown evidence would be used to completely dismantle the case.

CMS are legit untouchable because they literally made the server. What are you on about? They don't need a check on their power, this isn't a government body. This is a private company with volunteers in place of employees. Your logic doesn't flow correctly. As for the assuming and insinuating things part. It is very easy for you to say that a staff member is assuming something. Especially considering you don't have the information that a staff member on the server has. Just because they refrain from telling you certain incriminating information does not mean that they are assuming things. You are again, making baseless accusations without any actual evidence here.

I can name at least 5 staff that are forum banned or perma banned. Its not like people change in two seconds so the fact that only after they are off the staff team are they acknowledged as bad people is what is concerning. Saying that they have a complete personality change after they leave staff is just not reasonable- considering the amount of staff this has occured with.

And I can name 10 more. You are right, its not like people change in 2 seconds, however, we do not know that until its too late. And its usually too late AFTER they have resigned and decided that they wanted to mass rdm, poach staff members and players, or leak internal information.

The main point I was trying to point out is the blackmail portion with a staff member- like an IRS scam call he made me think that I was gonna get severly punished for something that was not wrong and he threatened to ban me. This brings me to another point. The fact that the word of staff is held as fact. I gurantee you if I made a staff report knight would have said something to frame me and I could do nothing about it. I would probably not be here on forums today.

That is literally nothing like an IRS scammer. That is more like a "How did you get that private information, if you don't cooperate we will take you to court". Blackmailing you would be if an SA was selling you in-game assets for real money and then you decided that you wanted to stop and he/she said "If you stop buying these things, I will perma ban you". That is blackmail. You say that you wouldn't be here if you made a staff report, but that is not how this works. Not in the slightest. You are being very dramatic and it shows.
This is interesting because this is not my first forum post addressing the topic yet if you searched you can not find any of my other ones. Maybe because they were deleted- and im pretty sure that is silencing


I see one thread that was not authored by you but is still up. I also see 3 other posts that you made on another similar thread that you did not author. And as far as I am concerned, your comments were not appropriate and were an attempt to cause drama. All the other recent threads that have been deleted had stuff like "Who do you think is best/worst staff member" or "poll for next SA". Neither of which are serious posts or appropriate ones at that. As far as any posts YOU have authored on this topic. None were deleted. I just checked. Also, possibly consider changing your behavior on our forums. Its not flattering.
 

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I would like to remind you all to stay on topic. Unless you are telling me that the reason why you feel that staff are the way that they are is because you can't shoot as many cops as you want. If that is the case then that is not the staff's fault. So I honestly do not understand why you are making a thread about the grievances you have about staff when the actual grievances you have are about your FragRP. If this is about FragRP then I do not mind cleaning this thread up and telling you to change your original forum post.
 

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See the thing about that- is all the community knows how futile the staff reports are. There have been many staff reports that have been in length and have had simple evidence and 99% of them are denied and the other 1% are talked to. What this means is that the community now knows that the staff are invincible and cannot be touched-therefore they do not have to abide by the rules- they are the rules.
The reason why accepted staff reports are usually just getting talked to is because we're human and allowed to make mistakes sometimes without being demoted. Do you get permabanned on your first case of RDM? Usually not. We're allowed to get verbal warnings as well. I certainly don't feel immune to the rules, if anything I'm more scared of the rules than I was before I was a staff member, because now I know more eyes are on me.

Also, technically CMs do have a superior (Gurra) and as such I image they technically are very much reportable.
 

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A staff report is not to punish a staff member for issuing out a punishment that you feel is unfair. Again, you are pulling out statistics from thin air and you are not backing anything up
That is very easy for you to say. You say I have no evidence for my claims although you do not either. Its your word against mine- but there is a difference. This is such a common problem that I dont even need to bring up simple examples. Just look at every staff report EVER. If those were player reports they would have almost all been accepted. Also I would again like to clarify that this is not just my feeling many people feel the same way but they are all afraid to speak up.

CMS are legit untouchable because they literally made the server. What are you on about? They don't need a check on their power, this isn't a government body. This is a private company with volunteers in place of employees. Your logic doesn't flow correctly. As for the assuming and insinuating things part. It is very easy for you to say that a staff member is assuming something. Especially considering you don't have the information that a staff member on the server has. Just because they refrain from telling you certain incriminating information does not mean that they are assuming things. You are again, making baseless accusations without any actual evidence here.
You are again trying to dismantle my claims saying I do not have evidence when you do not either. I am not sure if CMs get paid or not because if they do and they are actual employees then they are doing a hell of a job at pissing the community off. Just because you are the leader that does not give you the right to do anything you choose. This server is not some playground for cms to play God this server is a community of players- it would be nothing without the players and still something without cm- yet only the former get the blunt edge of the stick.
That is literally nothing like an IRS scammer. That is more like a "How did you get that private information, if you don't cooperate we will take you to court". Blackmailing you would be if an SA was selling you in-game assets for real money and then you decided that you wanted to stop and he/she said "If you stop buying these things, I will perma ban you". That is blackmail. You say that you wouldn't be here if you made a staff report, but that is not how this works. Not in the slightest. You are being very dramatic and it shows.
I am honestly shocked that you still are defending Knight- he legit threatened to permaban me if I did not snitch on the person that was aware of some staff abuses. That is the definition of blackmail. Also he permabanned the guy coincidentally right after- is that not blatant enough. He knew someone had dirt on him he threatened to ban me if I didnt say who and then he wiped that member off the face of monolith. DRAMATIC- I am legit pointing out a major flaw- one of many and you say dramatic. Even if it was dramatic- dramatic action is necessary right now so is change. On the weekend nights(times where the server should be popping) we see monolith only has 40-50 people. And dont even think about saying that kids are in school because when I joined the server it was almost exactly a year ago and during the weekends it would be like 120 people.

And as far as I am concerned, your comments were not appropriate and were an attempt to cause drama.
Again drama is anything you dont want to hear. So u just claim it to be drama and delete.

None were deleted. I just checked.
Many were its interesting cuz I can only see back until April even though I joined forums early March.


Also here is what a member said to me- the one that was permabanned by night- keep in mind this was like 6 months ago and nothing has changed since
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Dude I agree with that staff report you made many admins get away with stuff and they get to do whatever they want, SA even spawn in there own money. I do wanna say is though there have been times where staff would noclip mid raid and all they do is get talk to, staff rarely get punished it’s always they get “talked to”, I’ve played this server for a while and I have never seen 1 staff member get in trouble, staff are always biased and you can’t fix a thing bc they will just censor you. Best regards on your staff report hopefully they understand something but they never do, I would like to point out they never listen the the community they just do what they think bc they think nothing will happen to them but one day the server will say something and the server will die bc nobody gonna want to play but hopefully they listen to the community soon.


I would also like to mention that the above staff report was deleted and not moved to handled
Also, possibly consider changing your behavior on our forums. Its not flattering.
I dont care if I flatter you- I am not like the others that bow down to staff hoping they wont punish me and Im not gonna simp for staff either(unless they actually deserve it). The truth is not flattering sometimes. *****Also that is like the most passive-aggressive post- its pretty obvious you are telling me to just shut my mouth
 
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