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In-Game Name: Quinn Valentino
Steam Name: the girl next door
SteamID: 76561199147445895

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@official car mechanic ( i dont know his username but he was also involved slightly)

Date and time of loss (specify the timezone): 5:22 CST
What happened: Me and my fellow org members raided this house, everything went well, we killed them all, with great success.
We loot the stuff, it was big, LSD mini fridges galore.
We leave the house, go to leave in our truck, drive not even a second when we get ambushed by a green Shelby, they ask us to "get out the car" this is fine, we would go ahead and do this, but they instantly shot us and blew up our car, we didn't get a genuine second to react to the gunfire, ALL DEAD, this felt really odd to be honest as it was so fast, they said themselves later on in chat that it was supposed to be a mugging, but don't you need a few seconds to react to muggings in the first place? Like 5 seconds or so?
I would also like to add that the people we were raiding had locked the door during the raid, after breaking into the house, could this be a possibility to void it? I would just really like my stuff back as this has gone on for quite a while now and I'm getting tired.

Below is the evidence of all the incidents listed including, "mugging", the door being locked while I lockpicked it, etc.

What do you need refunded: Scar-H, Mini Fridge, xm8, LSD X32, LSD X21, LSD X3, Kevlar Helmet, First AID Kit L x3, Lockpick, Kevlar+hel
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Here you can see huncho saying it was a mugging

Evidence: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879271645804642374/891490200537145415/bigggg_boyy_23.mp4
(would like to add that the discord nitro top thing is because we were watching it back to make sure we were in the right after the situation.)

Read, understood and followed refund request rules and guidelines?: Yes
 

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Oops, forgot some lsd too, so x32 lsd, x32 lsd, x32 lsd, x32 lsd i also picked up the one from the body in this screenshot.
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This is a very long and complex situation, which is why I will be using the same response on each of the refund requests. Here is what happened to the best of my understanding:

Rhodesia & Friends raided a group of people that huncho/ Jamal were directly associated with. This raid would have been voided based upon the fact that the owners appeared to be locking doors mid raid, but this fact was not brought up until after the conclusion of the set.

A decent time afterwards Huncho/Jamal and Geretude/Bestfreind stopped Rhodesia & Friends asked them to step out of the vehicle and shot them roughly 0.5 seconds later. Bestfriend claimed it was a mugging while Huncho claimed that they had kos based on the fact that Rhodesia & Friends raided him earlier.

Bestfriend had no association with Huncho as far as being in the same org, freq, or otherwise and was warned for RDM. However, Huncho had a valid reason to kill Rhodesia & Friends based on the raid from earlier. The situation was voided as Bestfriend had no business being there. I allowed Huncho to keep the items he grabbed off of Rhodesia & Friends because he had a valid reason to kill them based on the raid from earlier, but I believe that there is a significant possibility that Rhodesia & Friends would not have died if it wasn't for the presence of Bestfreind/Geretude However, if another staff member feels this is unjust, I completely understand.

With this being said, I believe that the best course of action would be to refund this players items. I can confirm that they lost all items listed above.
 

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Request Accepted, we have issued your refund. When you are next online, please go to the NPC located in the bank to collect your refund. If you find any issues, please contact a Server Director or a member of the Community Management team.

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