Staff Report on Lola

[CZR]

Your Steam Name: CZR
Your Steam ID: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198838605190/
Your Character Name (If Applicable): Ramzan Abdulkhmanov


Admin being reported: @Lola Meid


Reason for Report: Staff corruption
Time of Occurrence: Unsure
Evidence to support your claim: By simply walking around with five cops and some civillians as the Mayor saying ''God Bless you'' to civilians alike and interacting with people as my character Mayor Ramzan, I noticed that 'Lola Meid' has a grudge on our group for well, no reason at all.

She kept threatening us to leave the hospital which was a public location after all, the police were inside escorting myself as I came to vist the sick and wounded on my trip around the town, I was told by her that I am 'slandering' her and breaking the rules(?) and that she'd demote everyone (seven people with me) for simply standing in the hospital, some players were unhappy with tyranny as an Admin so they hit her with a baton twice, this I can understand if she decided to remove their batons, alas she instead directed her angry on me and told me to leave or she'd blacklist me as Mayor, for simply standing inside the hospital with my posse.

The real issue that happened is when we returned to the hospital later on to confront her hitting one of my police officers with an ambulance - we also found her ambulance parked in a horrendous way which does indeed conflict with the laws and rules, and I simply sent in my Police officers including myself to confront her about it. Unfortunately I was shot and killed by an assassin who was previously arrested by the police, instead of actually doing fear-rp it decided to gun down everyone in the hospital at that current situation, even bullets didn't seem to have damaged him I was thinking he was glitched but, no problem I didn't have an issue with dying.

Then upon dying I hear Lolas voice ''Thank fucking god he's dead'' right after that I get blacklisted for two days for ''FAIL RP'' which I was angry about since i've done nothing against her or the rules, I was very much in character so I commented "yikes when an e-girl fed with power rages for no reason and blacklists me upon death for nothing" It does indeed look like slander, but it is within egalitarianism as a player playing on the server, I should be able to voice my displeasure with an abusive member of staff if that same staff member can go around yelling of how annoying I am.

[07:29] (OOC) Lola Meid: thats how to deal with annoying people <-- Would this not also be considered as slander after being banned for ''FAIL RP as Mayor multiple times" yet I wasn't told by Lola what failrp I have commited, instead just banned for an unfair reason for things I haven't commited at all, there were plenty of players around me to also prove that I haven't fail roleplayed as Mayor. What was also rather odd is that she didn't even investigate when a gun-man walked into the hospital and began shooting civillians alike for... well no reason?

Eitherway this member of 'Staff' radiates with toxicity and even perhaps egological problems in my opinion, that is, as I have noticed her attitude to be always aggressive and displeasurable to even hear nor interact with, I believe she even was doing similar things to different players but I don't speak for them because I have no understanding of their situations as I do of mine.

To conclude, I joined this server with a mindset that staff Administration would be a much more better quality than standard DarkRP servers and I do not plan to return even after my ban if this goes unheard, thus I have made a report rather than post an unban appeal to ensure that we can settle this dispute against this distasteful staff member.

Additional members involved/witnessing: Pretty much the entire group that was walking around with me

 

[Lola Meid]

1. You called me abusive for dealing with you and your law of ''not harassing the mayor''. Everytime someone came near you and told you to do something your group of ''cadets'' would beat them up.
2. You have previous notes of failRP-ing as a mayor (@Valentino Meid submitted it)
3. @JustJosh reported you for being corrupt, multiple people did and @DevulTj witnessed it as well.
4. You were harassing everybody at the hospital, constantly coming over making remarks about people doing nothing, being ''idiots'' and just wasting our space and time yelling constantly through people (for example @DevulTj)

After you got erased from being mayor by being murdered because you were corrupt- which nobody gave you permission for -
I've decided to blacklist you. After I did you said a remark because you got upset/mad/salty about me blacklisting you, in which you got banned for. I'm not sure why you think that was appropriate to say that in OOC - if you do, then there's something wrong with you unfortunately.

 

[DevulTj]

1. You've been playing as a corrupt mayor and so many people were very happy when you got punished for your actions.
2. You were being rather insulting and horrible to people in-game, myself included.
3. You got police and security officers to arrest me without reason, being a minge.

I don't see anything action that was done wrong by the banning Staff Member.

 

[Gurra]

Reply @CZR

 

[CZR]

I see how not one, but two of you decide to jump the gun and go on the offensive rather than the defensive.

Your points are yet again invalid, I called you abusive because you kept threatening me in the hospital including all of the cadets and forces of civilians with me.

You claim I FailRPED as Mayor yet I don't see any proof or even an example of it, you're just saying ''oh we have proof people reported you for being corrupted jimmy kimmel was a witness' '

All I did was walk around the hospital and saying 'God Bless you'' to the paramedics, when I noticed your ambulance parked on the side-walked illegaly I confronted you, as I was eitherway for hitting one of my officers with a ambulance, I didn't 'remark' anyone, I sent officers to deal with you and investigate, please don't bend the situations against me and try to use your player reports as bullets against me when you don't provide proper examples or actual situations in detail in which you witnessed or another staff member witnessed.

Now to DevulTJ, with all due respect you're blapping nonesense unless you provide a proper situation, i meet different people on the server and I don't know who you are nor your character name, hence I cannot defend myself against you constantly screaming ''mayor is corrupted'' when I haven't done ANYTHING corrupt-like today.

I can't tell if you were the man on the roof of the bank that was arrested for trespassing (by the officers and security) You were arrested by them, not me, I simply endorsed this as you were tresspasing

 

[Lola Meid]

You claim I FailRPED as Mayor yet I don't see any proof or even an example of it, you're just saying ''oh we have proof people reported you for being corrupted jimmy kimmel was a witness' '

Not once have i mentioned this name, I don't even know who this is you are talking about. You have had notes of other staff members of you failRP-ing as a mayor. As soon as I joined the game someone reported you for being corrupt. I gave you the benefit of the doubt because of no evidence and gave you a verbal warning. Then I notice how much of a distracting mayor you are. The law you had about harassment caused cadets to beat people for simply telling you to go away from the surgery room because your loud mouth and your crew were crowding the small room. Instead you kept giving me attitude and calling me names. The final straw was when you decided to linger around and shouting things about me and people around me. You weren't doing once mayor jobs, instead you were just harassing people on the street, ordering people to be arrested (witnessed it).

Everything you just said was false, you didn't come just to say god bless, I never screamed mayor is corrupt - instead people were adverting that you were - and you slandered me in OOC (you said that was in character, but I don't see any of that in character, so you basically lied). Your group of cadet were beating people, others were tazering for no reason. You are not capable as a mayor and because you had a note from @Valentino Meid I've decided to blacklist you after the RP was done (the shootout).

 

[Valentino]

About the note. After a report came in saying your secret service was tazing and cuffing random people around hospital one of who was just imessaging his friend and not even doing anything bad. I decided to spectate you and your secret service and saw you guys responding to a possible bank robbery. I decided to bring you all to a sit where I saw you had a fail law saying everyone should convert to islam or something. I asked you to remove it and you did so I then gave you the verbal warning and note. So when Lola saw you failrping she decided to blacklist you because it was already your second offense in under (24 hours I believe.) I would have done the same.

 

[CZR]

Thus you point the finger at me and claim you're as innocent as a lamb

To go back to one occasion when I as a new player Fail Roleplayed by going into the bank during a bank robbery with the SS to neutralize the criminals and which I had a law to convert to islam, that is what I was warned for.

For your information you didn't spectate, because if you did, you'd realise there was no secret service, they are not NPCS under my command, they are players that dictate and rule themselves I cannot control them like a necromancer.

Lola didn't see me fail roleplaying because there was simply no fail roleplay commited on my side, you accuse me of being corrupted based on reports that have not a drip of evidence. The law I had was simple ''No harassment of the Mayor'' which you told me to change in which I did to something more specific ''No harassment of the Mayor such as insulting, threatening, provoking'' that was changed too when you began counting down as if you were Gods GIFT to mankind with your GMOD authority, in which I too listened and changed it to ''No threatening the Mayor'' yet those three laws in my opinion, were not fail RP as it simply prevents people to walk up to the Mayor and begin insulting, punching, or screaming, I had cadets, officers, civillians crowd around me and intimidate or hit them with batons

Oh and, please don't bend the situation because the only person they were hitting was you, they didn't hit anyone else to my knowledge, don't blame me for their actions. I personally never read a rule where it said ''No crowding in the Hospital'' I was the Mayor walking around to vist the sick and wounded, It's my job as public relations atleast in Roleplay but alas you didn't do anything in RP you used your staff powers to kick me out and threatend to demote and ban or blacklist everyone that was with me, doesn't really help your case with that signature of yours, yikes.

''Instead you kept the attitude and called me names''
Err.. I don't recall insulting you

"Arresting random people in the streets"
I am yet to be given an detailed situation regarding this accusation

"(you said that was in character, but I don't see any of that in character, so you basically lied)."
The only time I really 'insulted' you was in OOC chat text chat, if that really hurts your feelings I offer you my apologies, where I come from people don't tend to get hurt and violated by such words.

"You weren't doing Mayor jobs"
Oh I surely was, winning the hearts of the people and winning the votes most of the time and gaining a zealot band of civilians, police officers, security guards from the bank, paramedics, that is doing Mayor jobs, all those people you pissed off and hence they began clubbing you like the local witch, that's not my problem if they get mad at you.

"The Final straw was when you decided to linger around and shouting things about me and people around me"
I shouted at you, in voice chat, in character. Why did I shout at you? Because you slammed your ambulance into a police officer which he came to me to report, which I immediately moved to the Hospital to confront you and I found your ambulance parked illegaly, only then did I begin my big mayor rage and sent cops to investigate and speak to you before I was shot in the back by an assassin.

We can stay here calling each other corrupted for the rest of the day or we can both apologise to one another, revoke the ban and blacklist and seek a none-toxic treaty since this server favours online bureaucracy, hence I propose a solution

However I am aware that this solution will most likely be ignored and Gurrazor would most likely side with his own 'Administration circle' than the common players which do not join to commit malicious deeds, but instead to simply enjoy the server.

The staff all deciding to jump on Lolas side really gives the impression that the staff are stacked against the players, hence I didn't come here to beg for an unban, but instead to reason with staff and to point out injustice.

I have provided my points and arguments to the full extent, I desire a swift verdict on such a report by the ''Community Director''

I refuse to play on despotic servers, i'd most likely have more chances living and arguing against the Pakistani government than this 'Quality GMOD RP server' I can't understand how people can tolerate e-girls and children physgunning you into a roof-top and speaking to you like Napoleon Bonaparte to a common peasant, even to go so far to start counting down as if to threaten you before they start ragetyping commands to thwart you and show off their dominance, absolutely disgusting. Not to mention they advertise [Donator packs] lol, ouch.

I spoke my piece

 

[Lola Meid]

This will be my final reply to this report.

This is as simple as I can explain to you why you got your punishments.

You have been failrping as a mayor, not doing your mayor jobs, harassing people on the streets, telling police officers to arrest other people (@DevulTj and when I teleported to you for the first time @JustJosh was also arrested), put a very vague law and held about 3 cadets to your team that baton and taser people (in which you are responsible for), had a previous note of failRPing as a mayor by @Valentino Meid and have called me abusive (slander) and insulted me in OOC because you were upset.

Your ban and your blacklist was justified as you were a very disruptive mayor with failure to do what a mayor is supposed to do: keep the town in order.

Oh and PS: you did insult people and you have been warned before for lingering around the hospital and streets with a crew as a mayor to taser or arrest people.

 

[deleted_user_574]

She kept threatening us to leave the hospital which was a public location after all, the police were inside escorting myself as I came to vist the sick and wounded on my trip around the town, I was told by her that I am 'slandering' her and breaking the rules(?) and that she'd demote everyone (seven people with me) for simply standing in the hospital, some players were unhappy with tyranny as an Admin so they hit her with a baton twice, this I can understand if she decided to remove their batons, alas she instead directed her angry on me and told me to leave or she'd blacklist me as Mayor, for simply standing inside the hospital with my posse.

You were in the hospital with your merry men disrupting all roleplay for the medics running round like idiots. I couldnt even get suspects out because you were all in the way.

I was very much in character so I commented "yikes when an e-girl fed with power rages for no reason and blacklists me upon death for nothing" It does indeed look like slander, but it is within egalitarianism as a player playing on the server, I should be able to voice my displeasure with an abusive member of staff if that same staff member can go around yelling of how annoying I am.

There is a place to do this. In OOC or wherever you put it is not an appropriate place.

Overall your Mayor roleplay was some of the worst I have seen. You cant expect to get off with going round ordering cadets to arrest people and going round shouting racist slurs at people.

 

[Valentino]

For your information you didn't spectate, because if you did, you'd realise there was no secret service, they are not NPCS under my command, they are players that dictate and rule themselves I cannot control them like a necromancer.

You are their boss and if you do stuff like that you should demote them, anyway because you were new and complied very well in the sit I just decided to give you a verbal warning expecting you to act better.

 

[CZR]

You were in the hospital with your merry men disrupting all roleplay for the medics running round like idiots. I couldnt even get suspects out because you were all in the way.


There is a place to do this. In OOC or wherever you put it is not an appropriate place.

Overall your Mayor roleplay was some of the worst I have seen. You cant expect to get off with going round ordering cadets to arrest people and going round shouting racist slurs at people.

How can you sit here and chastise me for saying the word ''You fucking baboon'' to a man punching me, is that really considered racist? Is it because his player model was black? I've said the same 'insults' to many different people for different reasons, but to go so far to assume that I'm racist because I say the word ''Monkey'' against random people for randomly punching me is just laughable.

You can attempt to throw insults, accusations, and cherry-pick situations out of pure context to look in the right, the difference between you and me is that I don't need to start screaming on Discord or Steam for my friends to make forum accounts who were actually witnesses to defend myself.

 

[Gurra]

My role here is to assess this as a staff report - meaning, you need to show that Lola breached her authority or acted under the level that is required and expected by a staff member - and one of her rank. I care deeply about the responsibility I have in setting a line when a member of the management is reported, because I thereby set a precedent for how our entire staff team should act. The leaders set the standard for everyone else.

However, it seems like Lola had sufficient grounds for blacklisting you. Whether entirely right of a judgement or not, it's hard to say that she was abusive in blacklisting you with all the notable reasons considered. Maybe there can be a discussion for the appropriateness of the blacklist, but that should have been in an blacklist appeal, not a staff report.

As for the ban, I reserve slander as a valid reason for more grave accusations than the one you lashed at Lola - that she was abusive in her punishment of you. So I'm actually - in difference to what you said about wanting to "side with my administration circle" disagreeing with Lola - and I have told her so directly. I don't think your tantrum of yelling abuse carried the weight of slander. We need to allow a somewhat generous space for people to dispute a ban, and must be a bit tolerant of players taking is as far as calling it abusive, as long as they aren't doing so excessively. However, I do think you were grossly disrespectful towards her for trying to do her job, and the ban wasn't very long. It was a reasonable action to take when a player acts the way you did.

Had you simply stated that you strongly disagreed with the ban, and thought Lola made a major misjudgement - that would have been fine. Naturally, at some point you would have needed to accept the outcome there and then, and taken it to the forums for a blacklist appeal. Even if you had called it abuse alone, Lola should have just simply told you to take it to the forums and shrugged it off. Instead you did what many players do when they feel mistreated - raged out against a Community Manager in a personal, insulting and rude way that earned you a short ban. We can discuss whether you should be unbanned in a ban appeal, but it's pretty clear Lola wasn't abusive when banning you.

Since there is no abuse or unreasonable staff behaviour from Lola here, this staff report is denied.