Ban Appeal Part 2 Since u wanna close it and wont let me reply

[Jimmy Veira]

Your Steam Name: Randy Smores
Your Steam ID: 76561198267983566
Your Character Name: Jimmy Veira

Ban Length: 1 week
Banning Staff Member (@AdminName to mention the staff member): @Gregg

Ban Reason: Lying to staff
Time of Occurrence: 7/11/18
Relevant Evidence: I was sleeping when I got banned and I don't know what I did wrong
Additional members involved/witnessing:

''My job to determine you're lying to me? Why should you lie to me at all? The situation warranted a different way of handling it. You think it's okay to just lie and BS the requests over and over for memes? No, you earned this ban for lying and bragging. And I have sufficient evidence, I don't ban without proof. This ban is most definitely not late either, you earned and you will serve it.''

I got this information from another staff member and acted on it. So yeah, I have sufficient evidence.

This is denied. -Gregg

My Response- I said this before and I'll say it again. I was not bragging to players about it, several people asked if I was faking them I said no and ignored people later on because it got annoying. I also had not been with an admin at all yesterday, so the information your admin received was false because it had to have been required from another player and again that brings us back to admins assuming who's telling the truth and who isn't. If you thought I was lying why didn't you check the logs? And again, Why did you accept them? You had even stated in one of my requests that these were beginning to be fishy yet you still accepted them. There were also several people that made refund requests about cars and they got accepted after showing 0 evidence and they ended up costing more than what all of my refunds did in total. They were obviously lying because if they did have it why didn't they just buy it back. All of my requests were made because it is more than likely all the trades I did in those 2 days also equalized to what I had bought and really probably more.

 

[Gregg]

I guess it's hard to tell who is honest and who is dishonest. But the second I have legitimate proof someone bullshit their refund request, and I also get this information from a staff member, yeah I'm gonna punish you. The time we allow requests without evidence as long as it is reasonable you decide to use it to lie and ask for stuff you never had and openly say this and this got caught by another staff member. I don't know why you feel it's okay to do that, or make another appeal when I already denied it. How could I check logs when it was a rollback? All that is gone, how do you want me to check logs now?

 

[Jimmy Veira]

Typing Response now give me a second

 

[Jimmy Veira]

Alright firstly you said "If reasonable" we're going back to the car problem. https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/refund.11815/ Now you mean to tell me this is a reasonable request? This cost more than every last one of my refund requests combined, and you consider it REASONABLE? this car is several hundreds of thousands of dollars and its a reasonable request? This car could not be purchased unless the player managed to get money from another player which he could have just repeated, or he would have had majority of the money he had refunded. You literally gave him more money than most players on the server have seen in their whole time playing have managed to come across in total.
Now you yourself have just said it hard to tell who's honest and who's dishonest. If i was lying what on earth makes you think i lack the common sense to talk about it to players, on the server, where admins have the ability to be invisible, watch whole situations go down, and can ban people on sight. You mean to tell me this admin who apparently is SOOOOOO credible that can ban people on sight, that also apparently heard me say it, didn't ban me? Now that seems a little more fishy to me than all of the refund requests right there. So you're either saying the admin didn't do their job, they had a player say it to them which is saying one player is more credible than the other, or that you're just going on an assumption. Now all of those don't seem to be very good for anyone in the admin team which would suffice to say that admins are being corrupt without permission.
Now we're going to another refund request that also seems quite fishy to me for several reasons. https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/i-just-remember.11821/
Now this request would have been understandable i guess if you didn't know anything about the server. There is NO 400k lambo upgrade after asking a few friends about it.
https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/roll-back.11806/ Oh boy looky here ANOTHER fishy refund request, I'm also sticking the fact that your whole ban on me is more fishy than the whole list of refunds you completed, But this has 0 evidence, this player also has requested them frequently, he also has 0 activity other than 1 from over a year ago and another that was today, You mean to say this player managed to come across items he needed a refund on, when he's still considered a new member? Those are fishy odds to me. Now i'll go ahead and finish hear although i could go on, but to me THIS is what SUFFICIENT evidence looks like, not just some he said she said BS.

 

[Jimmy Veira]

@Gregg

 

[Gregg]

So those three threads you posted:

https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/refund.11815/ - He was punished. Again, I trusted this person thinking he had the playtime. I couldn't confirm his playtime quickly, I don't have the ability too. After I learned he lied, I banned him. Goes to show you can't trust people in situations like this /shrug

https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/i-just-remember.11821/ - This person was punished. When handling his request I misread it as him losing both the vehicle and upgrade. After determining he was purely BSing for an upgrade only and just wants money, he has been banned.

https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/roll-back.11806/ - You don't know what was refunded to this person. Only the guns were refunded, not the vehicle. I didn't disclose what I did and didn't refund in the request, I simply copy and pasted my request accept post so I could quickly process them. Again, guns were returned only.

Those who lied are being punished for what they did. Given the nature of what happened, I went and handled the reasonable requests. I didn't expect people to actually bullshit their way around refunds at first, I figured people would be honest given the nature of the roll-back, but it turns out some people out of the many decided to abuse the system and are now being punished.

I got word from multiple parties about you and lying about it. So obviously, given that there now are people being ousted for lying, I began dealing out punishments with the chance to appeal so I could see. After seeing the requests you yourself made, I lost the trust in believing you, and believing these requests you made were legitimate.

You have to understand it's hard to determine honesty with every single person. If they make a reasonable request and follow it up with bullshit, it's hard to tell what is or isn't. But afterwards, when I figure out who is and isn't, I punished those in the wrong. You're not the only one serving a week ban for this.

 

[PMX]

You have nothing to do with the other refund requests. Those were dealt it and do not concern this situation.

Due to the rollback, we decided to accept all the refund requests that seemed to be reasonable. Now @Gregg accepted your first one https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/refund-request-for-jimmy-veira.11637/ as you provided and he accepted https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/refund-request.11746/ as you presented evidence for the other one and that is why he thought you were telling the truth.

It is not acceptable that you lie when making a refund request as you are abusing the refund system. You were called out by two different people for lying and making multiple false refund requests, which got accepted. Therefore, you were banned and you will serve your time.

If you do something like this again, you will be severely punished. When your ban expires, you will be forced to claim the refund requests if you haven't already done it and you will give all the refunded items back to @Gregg except for the ones you requested on this thread: https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/refund-request-for-jimmy-veira.11637/

Ban appeal denied.