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Your Steam Name: kevsonic
Your Steam ID: STEAM_1:1:91658105
Your Character Name: Steve Campagna

Ban Length: 12 hours
Banning Staff Member (@AdminName to mention the staff member): @JustJosh

Ban Reason: "Failure to value hostages life"
Time of Occurrence: Approximately 11:00 CST
Relevant Evidence: None
Additional members involved/witnessing: @[TRB] Ben
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OK everyone settle in as this is going to be quite a long one. For starters I am 100% sure that this ban was unjust. (Note I said 100% not almost 100%) So allow me to explain the situation from MY SIDE as this is something I was never given the chance to do. So Ben Forman took in 2 people for questioning and brought them into the interrogation room. After about 2-3 min of questioning one of the suspects decided it would be a good idea to pull out a gun on Ben and attempt to take him hostage with 2 people watching the interrogation and roughly 3 other officers standing outside. He gave commands and I relayed to all the officers (half of them did not listen) The commands were as follows "I want every officer with the exception of Ben and Steve out of the pd. I want Steve to escort us down to the evidence locker so we can gain our lost equipment, and I want (cop I forgot the name of) to be killed because he is a fu**ing pri*k" So I unlocked the door and right after I unlocked the door 2 officers decided to come in to the hallway when I already relayed over the radio 3+ times the commands which they broke. It is also worth noting that the hostage taker had a Markov and I had an assault rifle. The hostage taker walked past me and at this time I had a clear shot right at the head that should have killed him instantly. The very second that he turned that corner he would see the other 2 officers standing there and would almost certainly shoot the hostage.... so I pulled the trigger. It took 3 shots (should have took one) and did not provide enough time for the hostage taker to react as his Markov was never fired. Here is why I feel why my ban was unjust.If you read the rules...
  1. In a hostage situation, you are obligated to value the life of the hostage and begin negotiations. A superior officer/lead negotiator may, however, call off negotiations at any time if it is deemed necessary.
At the time it was almost 100% impossible that unless I pulled that trigger the hostage would be dead as if he turned the corner the hostage would be dead. It is also important to notice something very important. By me shooting this man I saved the hostage and prevented them from getting their things from the evidence locker which may have resulted in more hostages being taken throughout Paralake. At the time there was no police chief on and I was the highest ranking officer on which means that I had the just right to call off negotiations... which I did. I feel like there was a huge mis- understanding as the admin did not get to hear my side of the story which mean that what was in logs was what was in logs. I left and approximately 20ish min later is when i am assuming is when the ban happened.
 

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The problem I am having here is that your reasoning here does not match the one of in-game.

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What was it? You thought he had ammo or that fact that there were officers round the corner?
 

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The problem I am having here is that your reasoning here does not match the one of in-game.

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What was it? You thought he had ammo or that fact that there were officers round the corner?

The thought that he had no ammo came from the fact that he didnt turn around and attempt to shoot me when i shot him and/or shoot the hostage. Either that or just incredibly slow reaction times
 

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The thought that he had no ammo came from the fact that he didnt turn around and attempt to shoot me when i shot him and/or shoot the hostage. Either that or just incredibly slow reaction times
That didnt answer my question. You gave the reason to Karma that you shot because you thought he had no ammo. Your stories from the pm's in game do not match the story on the forums. Why?
 

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That was one of the reasons but not both.
 

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And you decided to leave the ammo detail out of your appeal? It seems that something does not add up.
 

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The ammo detail i feel like should have not been included as Karma also confirmed to me that he indeed did have ammo
 

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