Evilassasin Cop report 13

[JucaMais]

Your Steam Name: Jucamais
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:51677805
Your Character Name: Juca Mais

Target Steam Name: Evilassassin
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:0:66822808
Target Character Name (if known):

Request Reason: False code red. I was a tow truck driver at time when i sighted an illegaly parked car at hospital, i then proceded to tow it and to drive to the impouding lot, that was when evilassassin pulled me over arguing that vehicle was from a detective at work, i asked them if he could bring that detective to the place to explain better but he refused it. I then realized that if i didnt drop that vehicle he would arrest me for whatever reason he wanted, i went to inside the tow truck to release the vehicle (By holding E and clicking on "Toggle tow bar", You can see me on video doing it).
I tried to explain to them that i needed to go inside the vehicle in order to release theirs, for some reason the vehicle havent detached even after i've clicked at least 2 times on "toggle tow bar".
They assumed that as i was about to flee and at that rate of situation if left the vehicle they would taze and arrest me anyways, thats why i actually decided to flee. But then he code reded my vehicle.

2. Law Enforcement can not use lethal force when in pursuit of a fleeing suspect unless your own or civilian lives are in imminent danger or all other attempts to stop the suspect have failed.

- At no time was i posing as a threat to someones lives, when i decided to flee and move my vehicle away, i faced the right way where there was no one walking by. I could have gone by the left way and hit the detective who was on my side, but i didnt want to give them the reason to code red me.
- I was not resisting the traffic stop, when he ordered me to pull over, i've accepted his orders and even left the vehicle to see his badge, all that to try to solve that situation. I was being friendly all time, my decision to flee in the end was entirely because they were going to arrest me anyway, not understanding that i was really trying to release their vehicle.


When did the situation occur?: 22:00 EST 20/12
Your evidence to support your claim: https://streamable.com/obch6g

Additional members involved/witnessing:
Read, understood and followed player report rules?: yes

 

[Clutch Master FTW]

Under Review. @Evilassassin you have 24 hours to respond.

 

[Evilassassin]

The vehicle shown in the video that was in the possession of the tow truck did belong to a detective, Once I spotted the missing vehicle I pulled up to Juca with my lights on and asked him to drop it many times, and he would keep asking for pointless things like my badge, which I provided, to see if I had keys to either my car or his car I don't know, and to see the detective, which he did, I tried talking to him nicely and saying it was a police vehicle that needed to be returned, even offering to pay him for service as a tow driver in doing so, yet during the entire incident didn't make any show that he was attempting to comply and appeared to refuse every instruction. I was not going to arrest him because "I was doing whatever I want" It would have been for failure to follow a lawful order that I had not only requested but told you to do. I was on for hours following this and was surprised staff or you never made any attempt to talk to me about it as far as I thought the incident had occurred without any problems, such as why I shot the vehicle was because as Juca the tow truck starts to drive away, A splatter of blood comes from the detective straight in front of me, shown in his video, while in my perception was much more linear than his vehicle overview(which can be shown if needed but probably not), I had thought that when Juca start to drove away he was crushing the detective, as those same splatters appear when someone is being crushed by a vehicle, As far as I knew you were an uncomplying and corrupt tow manager who was attempting to flee with a stolen vehicle and was in the process of crushing a detective, it to me seems like a huge misunderstanding from my part and really did not mean any malice in my actions.

 

[JucaMais]

Now you're blatanty lying because, you were directly in front of the detective when i turned my vehicle away, you saw everything. There was NO POSSIBLE WAY i could've hit him since he is on my left, and i was turning the car to the right.

A splatter of blood comes from the detective

That aint true either bcuz how would splatter of blood would came from nowhere since i havent hit anyone? Are you going to say it was a game bug? No one else have yet reported a bug where blood splatters are coming from nowhere. Even the fact that the detective walked upon the spike strips doesnt excuse, since there is no blood splatter being dripped from the DET body (Check the full video not gif), also his character didnt scream either. Even if that was the case, that does'nt excuse your false code red, as it was clear from the way i was moving my vehicle, there was no way to have hit him and you were directly facing him and my vehicle, you have seem everything.

Also, When someone gets hit by a vehicle, THE PERSON'S CHARACTER SCREAMS LOUDLY. So you re telling me that you paid more attention in a suposedly "blood splat" rather than a LOUD SOUND that never came? It was not a "huge missunderstading", you did it on purpose.
This isnt the first time i see you false code reding people, you keep doing this because none of these persons didnt want to record and post on forums, you are spoiled to do these rulebreaks because no one want to spend time and effort, as im doing, to report you.

uncomplying and corrupt tow manager

As far as i see, the real corrupt were you and your partner, because he firstly have broken a traffic law - illegal parking -, and you wanted to cover him up, forcing me to drop his vehicle, which was a thing that i wanted to do and you can see me on video clicking multiple times on the "toggle tow bar" E menu option to release its vehicle, it wasnt my fault that you it had'nt been released.
Im not reporting you neithe your detective for this, but it was also a clear broke of police procedures. As a tow truck driver, one of my jobs is to tow illegaly parked vehicles and impound them and that is what i was doing. You had no power to force to drop your partner vehicle that way, because it was his entire fault for not parking illegaly and i didnt know that vehicle was from a detective either and, thats why i stoped my vehicle and proceded to ask you those questions and request the owner of the vehicle in person on the place.

 

[Evilassassin]

Now you're blatanty lying because, you were directly in front of the detective when i turned my vehicle away, you saw everything. There was NO POSSIBLE WAY i could've hit him since he is on my left, and i was turning the car to the right.

That aint true either bcuz how would splatter of blood would came from nowhere since i havent hit anyone? Are you going to say it was a game bug? No one else have yet reported a bug where blood splatters are coming from nowhere. Even the fact that the detective walked upon the spike strips doesnt excuse, since there is no blood splatter being dripped from the DET body (Check the full video not gif), also his character didnt scream either. Even if that was the case, that does'nt excuse your false code red, as it was clear from the way i was moving my vehicle, there was no way to have hit him and you were directly facing him and my vehicle, you have seem everything.

Also, When someone gets hit by a vehicle, THE PERSON'S CHARACTER SCREAMS LOUDLY. So you re telling me that you paid more attention in a suposedly "blood splat" rather than a LOUD SOUND that never came? It was not a "huge missunderstading", you did it on purpose.
This isnt the first time i see you false code reding people, you keep doing this because none of these persons didnt want to record and post on forums, you are spoiled to do these rulebreaks because no one want to spend time and effort, as im doing, to report you.

As far as i see, the real corrupt were you and your partner, because he firstly have broken a traffic law - illegal parking -, and you wanted to cover him up, forcing me to drop his vehicle, which was a thing that i wanted to do and you can see me on video clicking multiple times on the "toggle tow bar" E menu option to release its vehicle, it wasnt my fault that you it had'nt been released.
Im not reporting you neithe your detective for this, but it was also a clear broke of police procedures. As a tow truck driver, one of my jobs is to tow illegaly parked vehicles and impound them and that is what i was doing. You had no power to force to drop your partner vehicle that way, because it was his entire fault for not parking illegaly and i didnt know that vehicle was from a detective either and, thats why i stoped my vehicle and proceded to ask you those questions and request the owner of the vehicle in person on the place.

Yes youre turning the vehicle Right, which swings the back of your vehicle Left, towards the detective, and as he's right next to your car in between us and as soon as you begin to move, blood splatters in my face, and a lot of the time sound such as contact or screaming doesn't occur, I am not omnipotent, but you gotta understand he's blocking my view as you begin to move and I see blood splatter from him after forgetting the spike strips. and I've never been in trouble for a false code red unless someone gave one that wasn't valid, so if you have others with a time of some point I could explain any situation.

And you're making some big assumptions for things that could be cleared easily, firstly I don't get away with Jack shit, as shown by the forums and my ungodly record that can only get bigger and never smaller. secondly, anyone that knows me that I'm not a big fan of detectives in the slightest, and my "partner" was just some detective who made the callout for his car, Other than that I've never seen or met the guy on the server past those moments.

Also, It was completely in my power to stop you and retrieve that detectives vehicle, you're not government, it's not your business to police cops while they're performing their jobs, if the detective had to abandon his vehicle in an emergency situation to perform his police duties of protecting the public then that's completely part of the job, and requires no justification for some basic tow truck drivers who were already being offered compensation for their work.

 

[JucaMais]

@Clutch Master FTW , One thing i would like to keep clear is that he false codered'ed me, thats a fact, even himself acknowledges that on his reply. What im still talking here is about how he keeps shifting his guilt and making up excuses, and i've been providing videos and gifs proving that he did all that on purpose and how he still lying and creating excuses after excuses, maybe trying get a lighter punishment.

Yes youre turning the vehicle Right, which swings the back of your vehicle Left, towards the detective, and as he's right next to your car in between us and as soon as you begin to move, blood splatters in my face, and a lot of the time sound such as contact or screaming doesn't occur, I am not omnipotent, but you gotta understand he's blocking my view as you begin to move and I see blood splatter from him after forgetting the spike strips.

but you gotta understand he's blocking my view as you begin to move and I see blood splatter from him

Look at the gifs, my first move with car is on a straight line. When i've turned the vehicle sideways, the detective had already crossed your line of sight.
He steped on the spikes strips when i was still moving my vehicle in a straigh line, will you keep claiming that you assumed the "blood splatts" was because i hit him?
not mentioning that there is no blood splatts being shown on video and my gmod settings doesn't hide them.

Pay attention, he hadn't even hit the red line. Even when the vehicle swing reached its max point (on the end of gif), hitting the red line, the detective was already far from it.

The real issue with your excuse is that you had several ways to acknowledge that my car couldn't have hit the Det in any way: the way i turned my vehicle oposite to where the detective was, the distance away the detective was from the vehicle, how his character haven't screamed, how my vehicle wasn't long enough to perform a swing huge enough to hit anyone from that distance, how my vehicle moved in a straigh line when the detective was still walking over the spikes. But you say that you trusted your code red in a singular blood splatt that first, doesn't even seem to have existed, and second, was in a moment that in no way couldn't have been caused by my car.

Also, It was completely in my power to stop you and retrieve that detectives vehicle, you're not government, it's not your business to police cops while they're performing their jobs, if the detective had to abandon his vehicle in an emergency situation to perform his police duties

How am i supposed to know whose civilian car is a detective's and whose isn't? I don't have guessing powers, as i said, my job is to impound illegaly parked vehicles, i have had no way to know that car was a detective's, neither its my job to guess it. Imagine if i had to investigate every car i wanted to tow, to see if it's owned by a Det or not.

 

[Evilassassin]

Hey man, I'm not reading all of that, but you're totally right in my response was wrong whether I believed it was right.

I fucked up, I'm sorry, it was nothing personal.

 

[Clutch Master FTW]

Rule Number	Rule	Accused	Verdict	Punishment
5.2.1.2	Law Enforcement can not use lethal force when in pursuit of a fleeing suspect unless your own or civilian lives are in imminent danger or all other attempts to stop the suspect have failed. You must be able to justify your actions if asked by a member of staff.	@Evilassassin	Violated	1 Warning Point
5.2.1.1	Law Enforcement may only use deadly force when the situation requires the protection of themselves or others. For example, if a person is threatening your life, you may use your weapon in self-defense.	@Evilassassin	Violated	^

In the video, @JucaMais is shown as not a threat towards anyone and attempted to comply with police (but for some reason the car did not unhook). Shooting the vehicle as a result of him not dropping the car is not authorized until all other attempts to disable the vehicle have failed (5.2.1.2), and so @Evilassassin will receive 1 Warning Point for breaking this rule.

Furthermore, the situation will be voided. You are free to request any lost items in the refund request section of the forums using the format found here.
However, I don't see anything lost, but if this is incorrect please feel free to contact me.

If I've missed anything, or if you would like to discuss any part of this verdict, please let me know through private messages here or on discord.

Player Report Accepted,
Locked and Moved