false blacklist

[legit]

Your Steam Name:billbert
Your Steam ID:https://steamcommunity.com/id/75677476754/
Your Character Name (If Applicable):billy bob

Admin being reported: @SCOTTISH

Reason for Report:he blacklisted me because i didnt have a recording. why should it be my responsibility to have to record to prove i am innocent? i was a swat officer and i blew up a blue jeep for giving bank raiders call outs. and yes that is a vaild reason because pmx has done it to me before. but because i didnt have a video of that happening i was blacklisted. also a cop told me to code red the jeep and because i didnt have that recorded either i was blacklisted.
Time of Occurrence:1:50pm
Evidence to support your claim: i can get a video of him saying"if u didnt record it i will be blacklisting you because you have no evidence"

 

[Dobarion]

Hello @legit ,

Regarding you filing a staff report against myself, let me lay out the situation and the response in which happened, as detailed below in bullet-points for easy understanding:

• You was blacklisted for "Fail Roleplay - False Code Red", all jobs in the category of police were blacklisted for one day.
• A player made a report due to a S.W.A.T. Officer opening fire upon the vehicle in which he was driving.
• The S.W.A.T. Officer now turned Police Chief (You @legit) claimed that an officer over radio called a "code red" for the vehicle in which you decided to immediately open fire on the vehicle disabling it.
• Once brought all parties available to the sit, it was explained by the driver and yourself after shooting down the vehicle and disabling it you drove past the scene instead of further investigating or appropriately elaborating to the driver why you opened fire, as explained by you @legit you felt as apparently the officer who called out this code red was behind the vehicle you could just leave the situation and drive off as its code four.
• You was unable to re-name the "code red" caller of the vehicle nor clearly identify why you shot at the vehicle, bear in mind you changed the reasonings multiple times, first, it started off with the driver apparently running someone over, to then making call-outs for the Bank Raiders, then apparently he shot and killed an officer. You kept changing the reasoning.

To conclude to the actions in which was issued to you and clearly explained, you as an officer of the law wasn't clear on why you were "code reding" the vehicle, you were unable to re-name the apparent officer who called the code red and despite of all that you open fire on the vehicle, in which damaging the driver and disabling the vehicle completely, the driver wasn't detained nor arrested for anything on the lines by any law enforcement officer and essentially you just opened fire on a vehicle without proper confirmation nor visible evidence presented to yourself, the driver was no imminent threat towards yourself. You was issued with a one day police blacklisted as outlined in the rules for the following:

• 5.2.1.1 - Law Enforcement may only use deadly force when the situation requires the protection of themselves or others. For example, if a person is threatening your life, you may use your weapon in self-defence.
• 5.2.1.2 - Law Enforcement can not use lethal force when in pursuit of a fleeing suspect unless your own or civilian lives are in imminent danger or all other attempts to stop the suspect had failed. You must be able to justify your actions if asked by a member of staff.

I informed you as mentioned in your evidence of the claim section that if you were able to re-name the code red caller then your blacklist may be removed or reduced as it is your actions in which resulted in someone else characters life to be affected by actions with no evidence.

You have titled this thread "false blacklist", there is nothing false to your blacklist and clearly you did not understand what was explained in result and as mentioned by myself in the sit, although another player calls a code red unless you have full evidence you shouldn't open fire as you are putting your account at risk as another player could have provided misinformation or as you said "could be they are corrupt" which if you knew the name then it would further assist the judgement of the situation.

Kind Regards,
SCOTTISH
MRP Moderator

 

[legit]

as i said in the report. i had a vaild reason to code red him because he was telling the bank robbers call outs.and u just said ='asyou said "could be they are corrupt" which if you knew the name then it would further assist the judgement of the situation" so am i being punished because i dont know the officers name? how come i am getting a blacklist because i dont know the name of the guy that broke the rule? @SCOTTISH

 

[Maj.Kat]

Under Review.

 

[Maj.Kat]

Hello Billbert,

After reviewing both explanations of the situation, I do not see how Scottish was incorrect in his decision. Firstly, you cannot code red someone simply for giving callouts over their radio. If that was the initial reason he was code red, since it seems like your reasons for it have changed according to Scottish, then you simply cannot. If you were close enough to hear him talk you could have resolved this in non-lethal ways, and the driver was no direct threat to your life warranting you to shoot him.

Secondly, after you've disabled the vehicle, you did not even attempt to question/detain the driver, which obviously is not the proper way to play as an LEO. You claimed someone called it over the radio, but I do not understand why you would finally come to this claim after coming up with several different reasonings that were untrue, according to Scottish. It is obvious you would not be telling the truth if you keep changing your initial reason for the code red to this and that. Your story does not add up at all, and Scottish had realized this and punished you for FailRP/ False Code Red, which was indeed what happened.

Lastly, you were not being punished because of you lacking proper evidence of the situation, you were punished simply because after coming to your final improbable reason for shooting the driver, there was no evidence indicating that it was anywhere near true, but there was conflicting evidence and logic showing that it was not how the situation played out and was not anywhere close to how RP occurs.

Due to the contributing factors that led to Scottish's decision in punishing you, he was not in the wrong for his final verdict.

Staff report denied.