Friskiemar Staff Report.

[Delta.]

Your Steam Name: Delta
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:113997689
Your Character Name (If Applicable): Frankie Perazzo


Admin being reported: (Tag by writing @ before their forum name) @friskiemar


Reason for Report: Improper handling of situation/sit.
Time of Occurrence: 7:14 pm
Evidence to support your claim: none
Additional members involved/witnessing: @Adam James @Flip_111 @EdwigByrde @table]

I Get a call over radio that we were getting player raided as i was approaching my base (Steel Factory) because it was getting raided and they killed the raider , And from farm i was being chased by a cop for speeding and hitting a tree on the way to steel, i pull over in-front of steel and then a taco truck run's over the officer talking to me at the window of the truck in-front of the base and the taco truck runs into the gate of steel and the officer in the car with him gets out and open's fire. My friends thought he was shooting me so they shot the cop and then more cops came and pulled his car around for cover about 7 feet in-front of my truck and opens fire on my friends and hits me in crossfire i fear for my life Hence forth i ram the car ( I did not kill the officer behind the car my friends did) and try to get behind the cops to kill them since they were shooting my friends. When i get out and pull my gun out to shoot another officer i fire 2 shots friskie picks me and my friend up(@Adam James) mid-fire shooting the guy ( didn't kill him either ) and we go to a roof and then he says that a cop raid was happening which there was not and then he said we were fleeing which we were not , we keep trying to explain what happened and then he said me and my friend (@Adam James) were going to get warning points for not abiding by the rule "sensible killing"( im assuming). I think he didn't actually tell us why we would get the warning points and i was mid- explaining to him again for the fourth time what happened and then he gives me the 2 warning points and it bans me for 16 hours. He knew it would ban me as he said we would receive 2 warning points and it would ban me. I feel as if we killed sensibly because i wouldn't want my friends to die over running away from cops iv'e done this many times and haven't had a problem until now. I feel the sit was handled improperly and it sounded like he searched for a reason to give us warning points, also im not sure how i can get a punishment for an act i didn't even commit yet for all we know the cop could have killed me.

 

[Che'f Boyarte]

I received points also and this is my side. The whole situation started with our property, northern warehouse getting raided. I called the raid over on the radio and most of them came and dealt with the intruder. As Frankie/Delta was on his way to the warehouse he was pulled over by a cop. There was a taco truck driver that ran over the cop as the cop got out of the car to speak with Frankie/Delta. The cop being disoriented eventually got up and started shooting at the rambunctious driver. One of our friends at the warehouse got confused and thought the cop was shooting at Delta/Frankie. Our friend shot the cop and then multiple cops came and responded which then turned into a large shootout involving everyone. We wanted to position ourselves better and go behind the next wave of cops to have the upper advantage which would lead to us winning and our friends not dieing. We hopped into the truck to get behind the cops, we got out when behind them I killed one, and started spraying at the other. In the middle of the gunfight without any reports being called friskiemar physguns me and Frankie/Delta into the air. At First friskiemar claimed that it was rdm and then went on to say it broke the rule of sensible killing. I am pretty sure sensible killing is if the kill doesn't benefit you or isn't applicable to rp. I feel that me getting 2 warning points for breaking the rule of sensible killing is wrong. Friskiemar claims that we should of left and that makes the killing unsensible, the entire reason i started shooting at the police was because they engaged at my gang and I did not want them to die.

 

[friskiemar]

The situation was over, you killed all the cops that were involved. You start to leave, as you leave a cop rounds the corner headed to the base. You hop out and shoot him instead of fleeing when you had the perfect opportunity. You were lurking around the area just so you can kill cops, when I asked you why your friend said because you were baiting. Again another rule break, I explained it to you several times why you were getting the warning points but you just weren't getting it. I got tired of arguing with you so I just ended the sit.

The shoot out turned to a raid (which you guys were a part of, but then you guys left), you don't need swat for a raid if its an impromptu raid. You guys left the area after shooting the cops and getting rid of all of them.

The situation was over (for you guys cause you left the base), the cops were dead. You should have just left, but instead you stayed around waiting for more cops to shoot. As soon as you saw cops come around you hopped out of your car and shot them. Those killings were not sensible, you could have easily left the scene and never heard of the situation again.

I apologize if you disagree with how I handled the sit, but this is always how I've handled admin situations.

 

[Edwig]

This was never a cop raid friskie. We were being PLAYER raided, we responded to a PLAYER raid, and killed said raiders. We closed/locked all doors and were engaged on by police for a completely separate matter. The shootout with the police has nothing to do with us being player raided. We killed the police because they got radio'd in as backup. How are we baiting cops when they are being called in? Is just getting into a shootout with police considered cop baiting?

 

[Flip_111]

I was part of the situation, along with many others, and I can say for A FACT, the situation was not over when Frankie was shooting the cop on the street. When he was pulled into the sit, I was still shooting at cops when I was in front of the base, and you can check logs that I killed one, almost exactly after he was pulled into the sit.

The shootout did not turn into a raid, cops never even entered our property, the only person to raid was Ricky, who was alone during the raid, which we dealt with.

 

[Delta.]

The situation was over, you killed all the cops that were involved. You start to leave, as you leave a cop rounds the corner headed to the base. You hop out and shoot him instead of fleeing when you had the perfect opportunity. You were lurking around the area just so you can kill cops, when I asked you why your friend said because you were baiting. Again another rule break, I explained it to you several times why you were getting the warning points but you just weren't getting it. I got tired of arguing with you so I just ended the sit.

The shoot out turned to a raid (which you guys were a part of, but then you guys left), you don't need swat for a raid if its an impromptu raid. You guys left the area after shooting the cops and getting rid of all of them.

The situation was over (for you guys cause you left the base), the cops were dead. You should have just left, but instead you stayed around waiting for more cops to shoot. As soon as you saw cops come around you hopped out of your car and shot them. Those killings were not sensible, you could have easily left the scene and never heard of the situation again.

I apologize if you disagree with how I handled the sit, but this is always how I've handled admin situations.

There was never a raid , they never got past the front gate it was a shootout and the cops responded. Do u have a Recording of this ? These claims make no sense

 

[table]

I was also apart of the situation. There was never a cop raid and those cops came for a completely different situation and a shootout began (not a raid). They never entered our property we were fighting on the streets. Even when friskie pulled frankie and the other guy to a sit we were STILL fighting cops as they kept coming to the fight. Why would frankie or any of us leave if our org members are still fighting for their lives, I wouldn’t have left my org members in that fight. If friskiemar was watching the whole situation he would have known what we were doing. None of us were baiting cops, we simply defended ourself during a shootout.

 

[PMX]

This will be locked until it is dealt with.

Under review.

 

[PMX]

There are some points I would like to highlight:

• If there was a roleplay situation still going on that didn't require immediate intervention, friskie should have waited until it was over to deal with the sit - sometimes this does not apply though;
• Without any video evidence it is not possible to see what exactly happened. Nontheless, it is important to state that if you have the opportunity to flee, then do so. Do not stay around just to kill people. On another perspective, if you need to stay for some reason, such as your friends needing your help then you can stay.

As mentioned, without video evidence it is impossible to see what really went down in roleplay.
Staff report denied.