From one car to another

[Deruta]

Your Steam Name: Delta_Online sups.gg
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:88801023
Your Character Name: Ethen Den

Target Steam Name: jColborn
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:0:445364752
Target Character Name (if known): Jimmy Jimson

Request Reason: Initially in time of the first thing that might've started all of this was a Tow of the person's vehicle. Later, without some time of confrontation, it later turns onto the clip where Jimmy had gotten a Black Van and is ramming/cop baiting with their van to deny a top. Eventually leading to his arrest he then serves his time.

Later on, the person returned to stop another tow ongoing, and eventually it almost led to my death, but was quickly prevented. As you can see the clip with the Yellow Omni pulling up and eventually they got out to stab. (This section was separated because @Clutch Master FTW had taken a report about someone Copbaiting/ramming)

Eventually they come back to "Mug" me, but I quickly call out and drive off from the mass amounts of fire. Now this isn't all bad, except for the part that they retried not even 5 min later. To which is later done and gone while I'm dealing with going active on a Jewelry Raid to later capture him until he LTARP's in front of us...

Included staff ticket taken as you can see that user clearly forego any warnings, or other necessary precautions given to just do as they please.

Rules generally in violation that I believe -

• Cop Baiting
• Non-Affilated help to random civi's (Main reason they were trying to stop me was for the mass amount of Omni's getting towed for illegal parking)
• Retaliation
• Targeted Harassment
• Fail Mug Cooldown violation
• Mug near NPC (2nd attempt, as I don't think the first mug was close enough to NPC)
• Fail Driving
• Attempting to commit harm on a non-threatening officer
• Obstruction of RP (Tow)
• LTARP
• {Staff Item} Failure to follow verbal, immediately after sit basically 5 mins after warning
• Potential NLR violation as they went directly to Impound lot to "Mug" me the first time
  

When did the situation occur?:
First incident with Black Van - 12:20 AM EST 2/20/22~
Yellow Omni incident - 12:30 AM EST 2/20/22~
Staff Sit with Clutch - 1:00 AM EST 2/20/22~
Mugging attempt - 1:15 AM EST 2/20/22~
Mugging attempt 2 - 1:20 AM EST 2/20/22~
LTARP 1:35 AM EST 2/20/22~

Your evidence to support your claim:
Cop baiting/Targeting - 0:00-3:07 and 8:28-9:30
Staff sit - 3:08-8:27

Additional members involved/witnessing: Officers in first arrest, {Staff} Clutch, and SWAT John Summers for LTARP.
Read, understood and followed player report rules?: Yes.

 

[Jimmy Jimson]

Clutch already warned me for cop baiting. I tried mugging you on the dirt road by impound lot, you drove away so I shot you. I found you again later, gave you another chance to comply, you didn't, so I continued shooting you for fleeing from the previous situation. After I shot you up the 2nd time, you drove around the corner and left the game (I checked the player list after you seemingly disappeared), then seem to have re-joined and become SWAT to chase me down. You ought to take a day ban for LTARP as well, you left while I was chasing you.

Also, you've acknowledged that you fek people over (impounding cars for the smallest infractions despite being able to give small tickets instead) for no reason other than than it's your job, and it's not against the rules. Have a look at this. A guy's standing next to his parked car talking with the mayor and instead of asking him to move it, you go ahead and tow it away to impound it. Piss off.

The mugging is legit and you deserve it. I wanted to jack your tow truck to stop you from continuing to impound everybody's cars. Everything else I already got punished for. Please stop being toxic waste.

 

[Jimmy Jimson]

Cop Baiting

Already warned for that.

Non-Affilated help to random civi's (Main reason they were trying to stop me was for the mass amount of Omni's getting towed for illegal parking)

Helping people is fun, you should try it some time.

Retaliation

You arrested me for 26 minutes after I tried stabbing you. That's retaliation.

Targeted Harassment

Mugging you to steal your tow truck. If you complied instead of driving off immediately because you hate RPing, I would have been out of your hair.

Fail Mug Cooldown violation

I mugged you once in the woods, and you drove off and snitched. I found you again later and, even though I didn't have to, I gave you another chance to comply because I'm just that nice of a guy. You didn't, so I kept shooting you.

Mug near NPC (2nd attempt, as I don't think the first mug was close enough to NPC)

The second time, as I said above, was a continuation of the first one. I hate this phrase, but I do believe I had KOS on you for fleeing from the mugging with you tow truck which I wanted to steal.

Fail Driving

I was trying to stop you from impounding everybody's cars. I already got warned for this as part of the sit with clutch.

Attempting to commit harm on a non-threatening officer

When you're being mugged, what else do you expect when you, without saying a word, drive off and snitch. I know you snitched because an officer in a charger said "that's the car!" and briefly chased me.

Obstruction of RP (Tow)

You obstructed my RP (mug) by driving away without engaging in any RP.

LTARP

I'm currently banned for that already.

{Staff Item} Failure to follow verbal, immediately after sit basically 5 mins after warning

It was a mugging, not cop bait.

Potential NLR violation as they went directly to Impound lot to "Mug" me the first time

I didn't go straight there and I never died.

 

[Deruta]

Clutch already warned me for cop baiting. I tried mugging you on the dirt road by impound lot, you drove away so I shot you.

Immediately after you were released and exactly straight to the impound lot, straight to me.

I found you again later, gave you another chance to comply, you didn't, so I continued shooting you for fleeing from the previous situation. After I shot you up the 2nd time

Second time is the keyword, which isn't allowed as you failed the initial attempt. You're not allowed to get me a second time to "comply". You've failed your attempt and there are no chase downs for a second mugging, mugging was over for a 30m cooldown you came back about 5m later.

Also, you've acknowledged that you fek people over (impounding cars for the smallest infractions despite being able to give small tickets instead) for no reason other than than it's your job, and it's not against the rules. Have a look at this. A guy's standing next to his parked car talking with the mayor and instead of asking him to move it, you go ahead and tow it away to impound it. Piss off.

The impounding of vehicles are delegated to that of Tow Truck Driver (Civi/Police). Their jobs are simple, but items such as towing is allowed and your resolutions given are not. Mainly citing the cop baiting/attempts at RDM.

The mugging is legit and you deserve it. I wanted to jack your tow truck to stop you from continuing to impound everybody's cars. Everything else I already got punished for. Please stop being toxic waste.

Mugging the first time was agreed to have been legit, the second attempt is a violation of two rules given. Jack my tow, is plausible, and yes you were punished for one situation alone. Also the last comment is just plainly not required.


Second section:

Already warned for that.

Yep. For one of the many items that incurred.

Helping people is fun, you should try it some time.

The rules allow you to do such, but you're not allowed to just go assist people who are completely unknown to you. Especially for the reason of stopping someone from Towing, which is another rule of it's own.

You arrested me for 26 minutes after I tried stabbing you. That's retaliation.

Actually the interaction for the secondary interaction dealt with a multitude of items that pressed for your elongated time. Some of the items were:
-Breaking out time (never served the base 15m given as they escaped immediately to hide for 9m)
-Fleeing and Eluding
-Breaking out of Prison
-Previous crimes attached to the time of initial conviction

Your given arrest is due to your own actions specifically and my assistance in the matter, I even went to the PD Database just to check your previous time that you obviously had no time in serving.

Mugging you to steal your tow truck. If you complied instead of driving off immediately because you hate RPing, I would have been out of your hair.

It's not just a singular instance, the instances you caused within that time were:
- Cop baiting as Black Van (Target: Me)
- Cop Baiting and attempting RDM as Yellow Omni (Target: Me)
- Attempted Mugging as Black Tesla (Target: Me)
- Attempted 2nd Mugging too quickly as Black Tesla (Target: Me)

All instances were specifically a target against me, and only got engaged by other officers when backup was called for all those.

I mugged you once in the woods, and you drove off and snitched. I found you again later and, even though I didn't have to, I gave you another chance to comply because I'm just that nice of a guy. You didn't, so I kept shooting you.
The second time, as I said above, was a continuation of the first one. I hate this phrase, but I do believe I had KOS on you for fleeing from the mugging with you tow truck which I wanted to steal.

The moment I/you lost sight was the moment you lost me for a mugging, and you engaged me so you turned it into a mugging to just combat. You also came back around near mech and told me that I would comply again to another "mugging". Not just directly shooting me, meaning you were looking to continue an instance that was already deemed a failure. Yes, you do have KOS for a call out, but not another chance for a mugging as you were doing in the moment.

I was trying to stop you from impounding everybody's cars. I already got warned for this as part of the sit with clutch.

Yep, you were, in fact, warned. That is true.

When you're being mugged, what else do you expect when you, without saying a word, drive off and snitch. I know you snitched because an officer in a charger said "that's the car!" and briefly chased me.

Well, even though they may say "that's the car!", you actually have to hear the person directly say it. It could've been that an officer on foot for some reason could've seen you interacting with me in such a way.

Also this wasn't about that, it was in the instance that you were trying to kill me during the Yellow Omni/Black Van incident. As you were with intent to ram my vehicle to prevent all towing operations. Eventually leading to a plausible stabbing, which I thankfully stopped in time.

You obstructed my RP (mug) by driving away without engaging in any RP.

Obstruction to such would be to leave during a two gun hold, you require two guns for Fear RP. Also I was valuing my life in the knowledge of having a heavily reinforced truck and only one gun to potentially shoot me.

I'm currently banned for that already.

No, you were auto-banned for leaving in an incapacitated state. I'm pretty sure it's worse on what you did for this instance.

It was a mugging, not cop bait.

You attempted a double mugging, even though staff warned to keep up with the rules on things. Yet again though, you seemingly come straight to the impound lot strangely enough to mug directly me, but you know....

I didn't go straight there and I never died.

Yeah, it seems bank was the first location beforehand, as you didn't have the big gun the first time around. Even then, it might've not been NLR, but instead a sense of Meta-gaming. Even then I could be wrong about this in terms of server rules, not of what you have done.

ive started to just RDM Him when he Tows my car

Dead or Alive 6

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I know.

 

[Jimmy Jimson]

Hey Deruta,
Sorry for lashing out at you. After 2 of my cars getting impounded, the 26 minute jail, and the admin sit with Clutch, I was VERY angry, angrier than I've been in months. At this point I snapped. I said some nasty stuff to you and specifically set out to go mug you in order to harm you. My actions were negative and I shouldn't have taken them. I wish I'd just left the server and called it a night when I stopped having fun and started getting angry, as I tend to lash out when I'm angry.

Have a good day, I hope we can become friends. ~Jimmy

 

[heyitskev]

This report has been locked for review.

 

[heyitskev]

After a long review of this report, I have made the following observations:

SUMMARY

0:00-8:28
Everything within this timeframe was brought to @Clutch Master FTW 's attention and dealt with accordingly. I will not be overriding any of his decisions.

8:28-8:49
The mugging that occurred at impound lot was, as @Deruta mentioned, too far away from any NPC's to be considered a fail mugging. The impound NPC was way further down the road.

8:50-9:22
This mugging took place outside of the 30 minute mugging cooldown, and thus was invalid.

9:20-9:30
This is blatant LTARP, but the server auto banned @Jimmy Jimson for it

11:52
@Deruta made improper use of their tazer

VERDICT

As a result of the above observations, I have issued the following verdicts:

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
2.2.6​	You may not cop bait - the act of excessively provoking Law Enforcement for the sole purpose of having them chase you or incite some other reaction from them for your own mere enjoyment.​	@Jimmy Jimson​	Inconclusive​

Mugging ≠ Copbaiting. The only instances of @Jimmy Jimson copbaiting that I saw in @Deruta 's evidence were already handled by @Clutch Master FTW.

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
2.2.9​	You may not shoot or harm Law Enforcement Officers, in order to help other players, unless they are in the same party, organization or radio frequency as you.​	@Jimmy Jimson​	Violated​

@Jimmy Jimson has admitted to breaking this rule in his replies above:

Helping people is fun, you should try it some time.

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
2.2.10​	You may not harm a Law Enforcement Officer for writing you, your friends or organization/party members a ticket. In addition, you may not harm a Law Enforcement Officer for previously arresting you and/or confiscating items from your inventory.​	@Jimmy Jimson​	Violated​

@Jimmy Jimson was arrested as a result of @Deruta 's actions and chose to come after him once he got out of jail.

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
1.13​	You may not grief, troll, harass or do other things with the intention of annoying other player​	@Jimmy Jimson​	Violated​

@Jimmy Jimson appears to have been targeting @Deruta

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
4.1.1.1​	You must wait out a 30-minute delay to do another mugging after your previous attempt that was either successful or unsuccessful. Any person in your party partaking in the mugging is also affected by this cooldown.​	@Jimmy Jimson​	Violated​

@Jimmy Jimson attempted to mug @Deruta a second time within 30 minutes after his first failed attempt.

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
0 (Bullet Point 13)​	Fail Driving - The process of having no regard to any roleplay when in a vehicle, be it slamming into most if not all objects purposely. Failure to comply with this will result in punishments of FailRP. This is different from in-character reckless driving which is not prohibited by our rules.​	@Jimmy Jimson​	Inconclusive​

@Jimmy Jimson 's actions were acceptable as he was attempting to get you to pull over so he could mug you, this can be considered in-character reckless driving.

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
4.1.1.6​	You may not mug or kidnap in crowded places or near any NPCs, criminal or regular - you must do it in less populated and less exposed areas. This may not be in front of an NPC and/or governmental buildings such as the Police Department, Sheriff's Department, Hospital, Fire Department, City Hall, and the Bank.​	@Jimmy Jimson​	Violated​

After the first mugging attempt, @Jimmy Jimson attempted to mug @Deruta in a crowded area.

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
2.1.8​	You may not disconnect to avoid a role-play situation. You must contact ingame staff and be granted permission in case you want to leave during an active role-play situation.​	@Jimmy Jimson​	Inconclusive​

@Jimmy Jimson was already issued an automatic ban by the server.

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
5.2.1.7​	Law Enforcement may not abuse the taser. You must have a valid reason to taze a player. You may deploy your taser during a gunfight or active shootout to take down criminals if they are not directly facing or shooting at you.​	@Deruta​	Violated​

While outside of the provided timeframe, the person that @Deruta tazed at 11:52, posed no active threat at all.

CONCLUSION

As a result of the above verdicts, the following has occurred:

@Jimmy Jimson has been issued 2 warning points for Fail RP, Attempted RDM, and Breaking Mug Timer.

@Deruta has been issued 1 warning point for Tazer Abuse.


If I've missed anything, or if you would like to discuss any part of this verdict, please let me know through private messages here or on discord.

Player Report Accepted

Locked and Moved

P.S, In the future @Deruta please try to condense your reports some so that they can be reviewed in a timely manner.