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Your Steam Name: Cosmic
Your Steam ID:
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Your Character Name (If Applicable): Cosmo Scaletta


Admin being reported: (Tag by writing @ before their forum name) @hawke


Reason for Report: Server Guard Abuse.
Time of Occurrence: 4/30/17 - 5/7/17
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Additional members involved/witnessing: @Apple @MostWantedPwnz
 

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This situation was already solved by @Stuvi @Martinerrr @Gurrazor on the afternoon after the Bitcoins were nerfed.


In terms of the logs you have provided in the video, let me go over their context and explain fully of that night before Bitcoins were nerfed. First off, you contacted me last night both in admin chat and you also pursued me in character by demanding that I give your character 400k. I took it as a joke at first because I didn't think you were serious, thus my comedic responses prior to you getting in my car. After you hopped in my car and kept asking for 400k, I told you that I never took your money and preceded to explain to you the only incident where I've actually had stolen Bitcoins which was on the night that we discovered Bitservers were generating over 200k in 20 minutes.


I already admitted to taking Bitcoins from Colby, MostWanted and another person that night because I was basing with them and I had access to their keys to the property. This wasn't a matter of ServerGuard abuse, nor was it a breakage of the rules. Colby himself allowed me to take some of his Bitcoins, while it was discovered later that MostWanted did not. I apologized to him, but I also explained to him that at any point they could've killed me, kicked me out of the house, etc but they didn't anyhow. That incident there covers the line "I took money from a lot of people's bitcoin right before it was nerfed." because the only ones that were really on the server all night was Colby, MostWanted and the people whom I was basing with. That's what I am referring to and that's what I keep stressing is what you're talking out of context.


You had mentioned I stole from Apple, yet I spoke to Apple who coincidentally spoke to me afterwards mentioned that I wasn't the person whom stole his money and he said Stuvi was in the "Player can hear you" popup above the chatbox when he checked that his Bitcoin had zero dollars, not me. No idea which time or day he is referring to, but that bit did not concern me. Apple also mentioned to me (even though I know he didn't want me to reveal this, but I have to for sake of argument) that you were trying to get me removed because I was not compliant with giving you the money you demanded, in which you decided it best to post an abuse report. That and the fact you explicitly threatened me afterwards I'm "fucked" over voice on TS and I'm "donzo'd" over Steam implies this abuse report is nothing more than a blackmail on your part because I didn't comply with giving you a huge amount of money that you had been led to believe I stole from you.


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Your video barely proves anything and instead is just MostWanted and Colby rehearsing again the same incident that was already handled the day of the nerf. What strikes me the most is the fact that you decide to use their situation as a means of getting what you want in-game. I mentioned that you were "butthurt" on the account that I wasn't giving you 400k to which you kept bugging me about, it was simply banter before this had escalated. Let me be absolutely clear when I have never used any means besides using the keys swep to access someone's Bitcoin and have not even attempted or tried to remove anyone of their Bitcoins since it was nerfing, in fact I don't even really raid at all, but that's beside the point. 


Say what you'd like about this report, from what I've seen and heard from, it appears you care more about your personal wealth than the economy of the server considering you think it was wrong of me to take some money (using the key swep) from the one-night millionaires I was basing with. Having friends of yours exaggerate the situation only comes off as a desperate attempt to get someone in deep trouble and I don't appreciate the dishonestly in this report.


NOTE: Video timestamp at 6:10 explanation https://trello.com/c/I10xrVUt/1888-slightly-nerf-slots (non-related to this situation)
 
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I did not demand anything. I have asked multiple times if I could get my money back and you proceed to lie again. I just had a convo with apple and he told me that he said nothing as of what you just said. You wont change at all and that is why I am not giving up until you stop lying and abusing. Next time don't make fake shit up in your fucking comment to try to make your self look good. pathetic. 
 

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Cosmic did not say anything about trying to get you removed. He wanted compensation for the goods that you have taken. He shown me the valid proof of you changing your story multiple times and can not change. It prooves to show you wont change because you are lying in the comment aswell
 
 

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I did not demand anything. I have asked multiple times if I could get my money back and you proceed to lie again. I just had a convo with apple and he told me that he said nothing as of what you just said. You wont change at all and that is why I am not giving up until you stop lying and abusing. Next time don't make fake shit up in your fucking comment to try to make your self look good. pathetic. 


Cosmic did not say anything about trying to get you removed. He wanted compensation for the goods that you have taken. He shown me the valid proof of you changing your story multiple times and can not change. It prooves to show you wont change because you are lying in the comment aswell
 

No story was changed.


Your evidence as well as this log https://pastebin.com/X58jMcwC demonstrates that you came demanding 400k from me both in admin chat and in-character. You hopped in my car and your friend blocked my vehicle with the side of his, logs don't obviously show that, but the in-game chat does and part of your video does as well. I am not going to give you a 400k refund and I'm sticking with that unless a proper refund request is made. Your behavior running away from me when I was trying to ask you simple questions about the situation and even the video's timestamp of 7:55 I had to freeze you because you were no longer responding on Steam and trying evading me on the server which was not professional at all of you to do.


When talking with you, I couldn't even get your side of the story without you giving me snarky responses like:


[02:34] Not Cosmo: Am I being detained>.
[02:34] Not Cosmo: Am I free to go?



Or telling me I'm just "fucked" on TS or "donzo'd" (implying this would get me removed / banned) on Steam. Very unprofessional and I don't appreciate the disrespect you gave me last night while we were trying to sort this situation out once and for all.
 
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No story was changed.


Your evidence as well as this log https://pastebin.com/X58jMcwC demonstrates that you came demanding 400k from me both in admin chat and in-character. You hopped in my car and your friend blocked my vehicle with the side of his, logs don't obviously show that, but the in-game chat does and part of your video does as well. I am not going to give you a 400k refund and I'm sticking with that unless a proper refund request is made. Your behavior running away from me when I was trying to ask you simple questions about the situation and even 7:55 I had to freeze you because you were no longer responding on Steam and trying evading me on the server.


When talking with you, I couldn't even get your side of the story without you giving me responses like:


[02:34] Not Cosmo: Am I being detained>.
[02:34] Not Cosmo: Am I free to go?


Or telling me I'm just "fucked" or "donzo'd" over voice and Steam. Very unprofessional and I don't appreciate the disrespect you gave me last night while we were trying to sort this situation out once and for all.

We both know that I did not use my mic between us until you hoped in teamspeak with out an invitation, so for you to say "fucked" is a another one of your lies. I also love how you cut out the other half of the conversation. You did not respond to apple btw, he was just saying how you lied to everybody again. 


If we are talking about disrespect why didn't you bring up your own name? I requested my stolen money back so you quit messaging me in admin chat. In chat you also had disrespect by telling me:


"[02:11] James Crosby: If you're butthurt, mate. log off lol." calling me unprofessional when you say stuff like butthurt.


You also can find all of the lies in the vid. @hawke Do me a favor and watch it again.
 

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We both know that I did not use my mic between us until you hoped in teamspeak with out an invitation, so for you to say "fucked" is a another one of your lies. I also love how you cut out the other half of the conversation. You did not respond to apple btw, he was just saying how you lied to everybody again. 


If we are talking about disrespect why didn't you bring up your own name? I requested my stolen money back so you quit messaging me in admin chat. In chat you also had disrespect by telling me:


"[02:11] James Crosby: If you're butthurt, mate. log off lol." calling me unprofessional when you say stuff like butthurt.


You also can find all of the lies in the vid. @hawke Do me a favor and watch it again.

I was making light of the fact that you were accusing me of stealing 400k in the beginning before the situation had even escalated. I didn't take your demands seriously in the slightest until you began telling me more and more that I misused my abilities and stole from a large group of people (including you) that weren't even involved in the incident that happened that night. That line was banter, nothing more.


Your disrespect came when you threatened me over exclaiming I was going to losing my position in the community and also flat out ignoring my attempt to speak with you about the matter.
 
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I was making light of the fact that you were accusing me of stealing 400k in the beginning before the situation had even escalated. I didn't take your demands seriously in the slightest until you began telling me more and more that I misused my abilities and stole from a large group of people (including you) that weren't even involved in the incident that happened that night. That line was banter, nothing more.


Your disrespect came when you threatened me over exclaiming I was going to losing my position in the community and also flat out ignoring my attempt to speak with you about the matter.

I did not accuse you of stealing from that large group. I hear of it happening and I re informed  everybody that it had happened. I have not threatened you, not once and never have I ever said I want your position on the team to be revoked. Another think is if I really wanted I could have banned you right away from the teamspeak. I gave you a good long amount of time to explain yourself. You have harassed me by joining my teamspeak and straight out lying to me and the others in this community. I wanted you to keep your position on the team but the seeing that you are not changing and stepping up telling people of the things you did wrong and apologizing for your actions you kept going. Therefore I would like you to be removed from the team and I am going to give it my all in this report.
 

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I did not accuse you of stealing from that large group. I hear of it happening and I re informed  everybody that it had happened. I have not threatened you, not once and never have I ever said I want your position on the team to be revoked. Another think is if I really wanted I could have banned you right away from the teamspeak. I gave you a good long amount of time to explain yourself. You have harassed me by joining my teamspeak and straight out lying to me and the others in this community. I wanted you to keep your position on the team but the seeing that you are not changing and stepping up telling people of the things you did wrong and apologizing for your actions you kept going. Therefore I would like you to be removed from the team and I am going to give it my all in this report.

I apologized to MostWanted the day the incident was handled, him and I to my understanding were on good terms. I will not apologize or own up to something I didn't outright do.


Speaking with you over TeamSpeak about the situation was not harassment. If it was, like you said, you could ban me from it. But it wasn't which is why things were discussed and at the end, we both said to "take it easy" and logged off peacefully.
 

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I apologized to MostWanted the day the incident was handled, him and I to my understanding were on good terms. I will not apologize or own up to something I didn't outright do.


Speaking with you over TeamSpeak about the situation was not harassment. If it was, like you said, you could ban me from it. But it wasn't which is why things were discussed and at the end, we both said to "take it easy" and logged off peacefully.

Us speaking in teamspeak was not the harassment part. The harassment was from you following me and my friends into the teamspeak without an invitation from anybody. You made one of my friends so uncomfortable  that they had to end up leaving the teamspeak because you joined it. I was just trying to have fun and roleplay like everybody is suppose to be doing. Instead you joined my teamspeak and wasted 30 minutes of my time
 

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Us speaking in teamspeak was not the harassment part. The harassment was from you following me and my friends into the teamspeak without an invitation from anybody. You made one of my friends so uncomfortable  that they had to end up leaving the teamspeak because you joined it. I was just trying to have fun and roleplay like everybody is suppose to be doing. Instead you joined my teamspeak and wasted 30 minutes of my time

Because [redacted] invited me, he listed the IP in local chat and even said to me in voice "Here's the IP, I posted it in the chat." I joined and the only people who were in the TeamSpeak was you and Apple. Furthermore, the channel you were in was locked and you brought me into it. I'm not sure at this point who you are referring to. At any point, you could have asked me to leave the TeamSpeak. But we had a good discussion afterwards, so I do not see the issue.
 
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Because [redacted] invited me, he listed the IP in local chat and even said to me in voice "Here's the IP, I posted it in the chat." I joined and the only people who were in the TeamSpeak was you and Apple. I'm not sure at this point who you are referring to. At any point, you could have asked me to leave the TeamSpeak. But we had a good discussion afterwards, so I do not see the issue.

Here we go again with the lies.


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You left before i finished he may have thought i invited him sence i said "Thats the ip for the teamspeak Lol"
 

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Oh. Nevermind. I am sorry @hawke I did not see apple say that.
 

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Oh. Nevermind. I am sorry @hawke I did not see apple say that.

No worries about that.


Let's leave this up for Community Management to look over now, if that's fine.
 

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I was there whilst the situation was going on (on the night the bitcoins were nerfed). You may have to wait a while before a response from @Gurrazor as he has exams.
 

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There's no evidence of direct abuse in this report, and the whole silly discussion about joining some TeamSpeak, freezing you briefly to get your attention, and being mildly snarky - on both sides - are fairly irrelevant. MostWanted seems to think hawke is a proper jerk for stealing bitcoins in an RP context, but as long as it was in-character, it's of no concern to us. The only claim made that is particularly relevant here is that of hawke supposedly noclipping around and taking bitcoin money. There is some screenshots in your video where hawke says he did that to prevent the bitcoin exploit - in that context it's not direct abuse, but it may be overstepping his authority. So @hawke, how would you comment on that particular chatlog excerpt?
 
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@Gurrazor If you don't mind me replying to your comment. You happened to mention him saying he was preventing an exploit but if we read the servers title it says "Open Beta".


The definition of Open Beta is:An open beta also known as a public beta is beta testing open to any user, who is known as a beta tester.


@hawke Managed to say that he was preventing an exploit. He said "Preventing an exploit." As in he took the money and lied to you all. 


The definition of exploit is: make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource). I believe that the bitcoin miners were implemented into the game to be tested for the open beta. They were added to see what needed to be fixed for the official launch of monolith.
 

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@Gurrazor If you don't mind me replying to your comment. You happened to mention him saying he was preventing an exploit but if we read the servers title it says "Open Beta".


The definition of Open Beta is:An open beta also known as a public beta is beta testing open to any user, who is known as a beta tester.


@hawke Managed to say that he was preventing an exploit. He said "Preventing an exploit." As in he took the money and lied to you all. 


The definition of exploit is: make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource). I believe that the bitcoin miners were implemented into the game to be tested for the open beta. They were added to see what needed to be fixed for the official launch of monolith.





 






 

The beta period is quite long, and if there is an immediate exploit resulting in the economy being ruined, that ought to be prevented. An example being the slot machines - I wouldn't have minded if someone had removed them when they gave away millions. With that said, I don't recall hearing from hawke that he took these measures. I understand that it would not be ideal to announce publicly since people would then be made further aware of the bitcoin exploit, but it seems appropriate to report the actions to the server management.
 
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