Multi Report, Corruption and Fail RP and Metagame

[Sokolov]

Your Steam Name: DystopianRaven
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:144285202
Your Character Name: Viktor Sokolov

Offender 1:
Target Steam Name: crimmix6969
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:1:575254070
Target Character Name (if known): Glendal Yang

Offender 2:
Target Steam Name: The Hentai Supplier
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:1:120321312
Target Character Name (if known): Frank Saints

Offender 3:
Target Steam Name: Metal Hurts To Punch
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:1:50435200
Target Character Name (if known): Ansly Rock

Request Reason:

Offender 1 Glendal Yang corrections cadet reported for enlisting as cadet and releasing Frank Saints as seen in Exhibit 1 (RP Name) without proper authority nor permission from Chief, though then directly after quit his position and accept a ride with Frank Saints and Ansley Rock back to Sunset Island.
Glendal Yang is therefore being accused of violating rules:
- 5.2.4 Corrections Department, subsection rule #2, Corruption
- 2.6 Fail RP, unrealistic roleplay of position as corrections
- 2.3 Metagame, using previous job knowledge about an arrest and using that to time his employment with corrections to release Frank.

Offender 2 Frank Saints also deemed complicit in this situation and is therefore also being reported. Somehow Franks associates who had died at the scene where Frank was arrested were able to mysteriously collect Frank from the prison alongside then former corrections cadet Glandal Yang.
Frank is therefore being accused of violating rules:
- 2.6 Fail RP, Unrealistic roleplay accepting conditions that a cadet of all people would release them from prison. But also for the situation as a whole and how scuffed it all was considering Glendal and Frank have a little one on one as seen in Exhibit 2

Offender 3 Ansley Rock with no prior knowledge without any contact during Frank Saints arrest became aware and knowledgeable about Frank Saints arrest, some how coordinated with Frank and Glendal to pick them both up from the prison as seen in Exhibit 1, once Frank was released and Glensley had quit his job all three drove away. Ansley is also being accused of breaking raid timer under rule 4.4.2.1, the word "Raid" being defined under the Terminology section.
Ansley is therefore being accused of violating rules:
- 2.3 Metagame, without prior knowledge became aware of Franks Arrest without direct contact became knowledgeable of it and used that knowledge, likely through Glendal.
- 4.4.2.1 Breaking Raid Timer, Ansley was involved in a Gas Station Robbery with Frank Saints where Ansley was shot and killed dying on scene. Therefore under this rule is counts as an unsuccessful raid attempt and also starts a 1 hour raid timer cooldown. Unlawfully entering the prison premises counts as a raid under Section 0 Terminology in Rule & Information. As Ansley intended to commit criminal activity on the premises by freeing Frank and did so within his 1 hour raid cooldown timer.

When did the situation occur?: ~19:00 NZDT (Timestamps in videos now)
Your evidence to support your claim:

Video evidence is pending upload at this time, will edit post to include evidence.
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ALL Evidence by video has timestamps in top right corner. Evidence can be backed by server logs.

Exhibit 1 (Video: The Breakout)
Notice the Blue Supra (Later discovered to be Ansley Rock thru police database) pulling up at perfect timing. Then notice both the corrections cadet and Frank Saints running together to leave.

exhibit one

Watch "exhibit one" on Streamable.

streamable.com

Exhibit 2 (Video: Glendal at Franks Arrest)
Notice Frank say a keyword phrase to Glendal to pass on to Franks buddies. Further proving that the only way Ansley Rock would have known of the arrest was through Glendal thus further proving Glendals corruption.

Exhibit Two Glendal Metagame

Watch "Exhibit Two Glendal Metagame" on Streamable.

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Exhibit 3 (logs) Admin needs to provide evidence showing Offender 1 Glendal Yang leaving his position as Tow Driver to Corrections Cadet than leaving.

Exhibit 4 (Video) Showing the Raid on gas Station that had occurred before Franks revival, arrest and eventual breakout.

Proof Of Raid

Watch "Proof Of Raid" on Streamable.

streamable.com

1. I am seeking Glendal Yang to be blacklisted from Corrections and Police following these events.
2. I am seeking Frank Saints face punishments for being complicit in the whole situation.
3. I am seeking Ansley Rock face punishments for metagame & breaking raid timer.

Additional members involved/witnessing: n/a
Read, understood and followed player report rules?: yes

 

[Frank Saints]

When I was put in prison for 60 minutes, all of the doors to the prison were open and that's how I escaped. I was not let out by Glendal at all but the only thing that can prove what I say is if logs can show the times that I was released (escaped) and when Glen became a Corrections Cadet, show that I wasn't let out by Glen.

Video Exhibit 1 was when I was already released and went back into the prison, it may show that I was following Glen to be let out but I was already released. Ansly was already aware of my arrest during this time, that was how he knew I was in there in the first place. Video Exhibit 2 shows me telling Glendal asking him to text Ansly 'BananaChips', Glendal has no knowledge of what the word means or signify's (as far as I know). Until Glen notify's and texts Ansly of the code word is when Ansly became knowledgeable of my arrest. Even if this may not be the case, I would assume he was made aware of the fact not only by Glen but by others in my frequency during the situation when I was arrested. I don't know the full context/story for Ansly or Glen, but this is my side of the story of what I do know or speculate to be the case.

(Just to clarify, I'm partially speaking on behalf of Ansly's part because he is banned on the forums)

 

[Sokolov]

Until Glen notify's and texts Ansly of the code word is when Ansly became knowledgeable of my arrest.

Now how does Frank Saints here know that Glen made the text to Ansly? Seems odd that Frank would become knowledgeable about this.
If so, it for one violates my order as you see in the video to Glendal to not make the text about the codeword and two further proves Glendals involvement in the release of Frank as Glen therefore uses that knowledge to escort Frank out of the prison without trying to stop him without the proper authority to release a prisoner.

Franks response only enforces the fact he was complicit in allowing a cadet to release him even though Glendal literally witnessed Franks arrest and still proceeded to allow him to leave without notifying Police, further supporting my claim that Fail RP has occurred.

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Ansly was already aware of my arrest during this time, that was how he knew I was in there in the first place

Until Glen notify's and texts Ansly of the code word is when Ansly became knowledgeable of my arrest.

These to comments appear to somewhat contradict each other, which is true? You seem certain on both comments but yet later in your statement you show uncertainty about the whole situation.

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To further this case I would like to ask the admin who will eventually handle this case to pull up and examine Glendals logs, more specifically any !pms or iMessages.

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Just to also clarify, Glendal is my main target in this report, I am most certain Glendal has violated the rules stated in my opening. I am only suspecting wrong-doing on Frank and Ansleys part.

 

[Sokolov]

I am posting this comment now to inform all parties evolved that I added an new offence to Ansley Rock.
Where I believe he has committed a violation under [4] CRIMINAL RULES - 4.2.1.

Also opening Exhibit 4 (Video) Proof of Gas Station Raid prior to Franks arrest.

 

[Frank Saints]

These to comments appear to somewhat contradict each other, which is true? You seem certain on both comments but yet later in your statement you show uncertainty about the whole situation.

Most of what has been written by me is, like I said, speculation. I don't know the full context for Ansly or Glendal's part except for the time I escaped the prison and was taken out of the prison. I am quite uncertain of the situation because I literally don't know what Glen or Ansly planned since I had plans myself when I left.

Now how does Frank Saints here know that Glen made the text to Ansly? Seems odd that Frank would become knowledgeable about this.

As I have mentioned before, I can only speculate that someone with us or Glen himself had told Ansly about my arrest. I can't say for certain on what Ansly was or wasn't knowledgeable of because I don't have his personal input on the situation.​

Franks response only enforces the fact he was complicit in allowing a cadet to release him even though Glendal literally witnessed Franks arrest and still proceeded to allow him to leave without notifying Police, further supporting my claim that Fail RP has occurred.

I was not complicit nor was I allowing of Glendal releasing me at all because I didn't even know he became a cadet in the first place. I only saw him as a correctional cadet was when I walked back into the visitation room, that was where I ran back out, as seen in the video. I am also looking forward to the logs to show the time between when I escaped and when Glen became a correctional cadet to prove that I was not released by Glen and that Glen did not release me. When I was arrested, all of the doors to the prison were ALREADY open, this can be proven, once again, by the time span of when I was released and when Glen became a correctional cadet.​

Frank is therefore being accused of violating rules:
- 2.6 Fail RP, Unrealistic roleplay accepting conditions that a cadet of all people would release them from prison. But also for the situation as a whole and how scuffed it all was considering Glendal and Frank have a little one on one as seen in Exhibit 2

I may not have evidence to help support my claims except for logs since I am being accused of FailRP. I can agree that the whole situation is "scuffed" because there wasn't context behind my actions. This little one on one seen in Exhibit 2 is definitely a misunderstanding even if it may seem that it isn't.​

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I would also like to ask for someone to allow Ansly to give his side of the story since I've said previously that he is banned on the forums. I'm also uncertain of whether or not Glen has a forums account himself so that he can defend himself. I wanted to reply to all of the key topics spoken about in this thread because of the fact that there isn't context when the situation occurred. I am stuck on the topic of the time I escaped and Glen became a cadet for the main fact that it is prevalent against me in this case since you've continued to say that I was complying with him letting me leave.​

 

[Alphadef]

Under Review

Frank Saints has already replied, but if Metal Hurts to Punch or crimmix6969 would like to respond (either here or by PMing me on discord) that would be very welcome.

 

[Alphadef]

In particular, I would like to know how "Metal Hurts To Punch" knew to pull up to the prison and why crimmix6969 seemingly escorted a prisoner out of the prison

 

[StewartJames]

Friendly reminder that if a PD report ends in a blacklist, feel free to start the timing at one week from all department positions.
I'll do the paperwork if it's needed on PD records.
<3

 

[Alphadef]

Crimmix/Glendel has until tonight (EST) to get in contact with me and provide their side or this will be wrapped up without their input.

 

[Alphadef]

Crimmix6969/Glendel has failed to respond and this will be handled without his input.

[5.2.4.2] Corrections cadets, officers cannot release prisoners without permission from the Mayor or the Warden. A prisoner cannot be released without a proper reason.
[5.1.7] Corruption is allowed with permission from a Senior Administrator or above. The permissions are automatically void when the authorizing staff member leaves the server.
[2.6.1] You must abide by realistic roleplay measures. If something you are doing is illogical in a real life situation, then you can’t do it on the server.
[2.3.1] Metagaming is not allowed. Any kind of information you gain via OOC may not be used IC. Any IC information may not be provided in OOC.
[4.2.1] You may only perform one raid (this counts for both ownable, un-ownable and goverment/public buildings), a hostage/kidnapping situation, or both situations simultaneously, per hour. This counts for both successful and unsuccessful situations. Survivors of a raid may ignore the “raid cool-down” if they decide to free crew members from police custody or retrieve lost gear from the Police Department.

Normally I try and put my verdicts in one paragraph but since this might get a bit longer if I do, I'll try and split them for each person:

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Crimmix/Glendel:
So lets start by looking at this from the best case possible scenario. Frank claims that he had already broken out, and then headed back in (hence the video of Glendel seemingly escorting him through the prison). Frank would still have a warrant for breaking out of prison (unless I'm very much misunderstanding something) and yet still escorts the warranted person through the prison, then quits the job (which he just joined) to leave with the former prisoner. This would already be corruption by my view. The big issue with this version of the story is that it implies that Glendel was a very unusual passing witness to the events. This is easily disproved by the logs of him iMessaging Ansly saying and I quote "Come back" "we broke him out". This easily proves intentionality in the corruption, as and such the player in question will receiving a 1 Week Blacklist from both the PD and Corrections. @StewartJames shall deal with the police supervision paperwork regarding this.

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Metal/Ansly:
There are two possible issues here, as far as I can tell. The debatable one is how you knew to come up to pick up Glendel and Frank. However, since I can't really disprove that someone told you over radio in the time frame between your new life and reaching the prison, I can't really prove any metagaming beyond reasonable doubt. What I can say for sure though is that driving up to prison in order to assist an escaped inmate would in fact qualify as raiding the prison-an act which you were still on cooldown for (as the cooldown is only waived for prison breaks if you survive the previous encounter, and you died. This will earn you 1 Warning Point for breaking raid timer.

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@Frank Saints:
So I can't really fault you for benefiting from someone else breaking rules, as their actions are their own. I can however fault you for misusing PMs asking Metal to come back for you. As such, you will receive 1 Warning Point for Metagaming through PMs.

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Furthermore, the situation will be voided, although as far as I know no items are lost.

If I've missed anything, or if you would like to discuss any part of this verdict, please let me know through private messages here or on discord.

Player Report Partially Accepted,
Locked and Moved