Not given enough time to react - Report

[Sokolov]

Your Steam Name: DystopianRaven
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:144285202
Your Character Name: Viktor Sokolov

Target Steam Name: misterjokeman
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:1:51800342
Target Character Name (if known): Wolf Thornton

Request Reason:
During an arrest of a wanted suspect found hiding inside casino I proceed to drag him back to vehicle, aware that poeple had been outside some time ago I walk out with caution but see no one so I holster my weapon and drag him out chatting with the suspect, shortly after Wolf Thornton runs up and screams "Hands up" x3 times, within seconds I raise my hands an am shot for "Taking to long"... I believe Wolf Thornton did not give me enough time to react within a reasonable amount of time. I'm not a robot and cannot be expect to react within such a short couple of seconds like that as per the rule [2.2.14].

When did the situation occur?: 2200NZDT 08/12/2019
Your evidence to support your claim: https://streamable.com/1caji

Additional members involved/witnessing: n/a
Read, understood and followed player report rules?: YES

 

[Knight]

@misterjokeman, it appears you are the reported party in the report. You have 24-hours to respond or this report will be handled accordingly.

 

[misterjokeman]

@Mr.Alex
@Shimax

We discussed this situation in a sit following this and I was told that it was fair play considering that the person you were arresting was not necessarily in our organization but was in our frequency which gave us valid grounds to kill you. It is irrelevant whether or not I gave you enough time or not as you putting him in cuffs at gunpoint gave us valid enough reason to neutralize the threat in this situation, which unfortunately turned out to be you. Shimax stated entirely that if this was indeed the case then no rules were broken.

 

[Sokolov]

How am I supposed to know you too knew each other, seems ridiculous. On the same freq but not same org just make this even more ridiculous, one could argue that because I'm on 123.45 freq I could defend another person on that same freq.

Do you have proof of your same freq? logs won't show it, its just here-say.

I was obviously outnumbered as you can see in the video, meaning if I did actually refuse or pull out my gun I could be punished for breaking Fear RP, but I didn't as you can see I did raise my hands. Nothing I did warranted any need for shooting, I did not call for backup on radio, did not run away, did not pull out gun.

 

[Knight]

The relevant rules here are as follows:

"Attacking to kill should be carried out sensibly and not as a first resort, unless you have a good reason for immediate lethal action. "

"You are required to give the opposing party a reasonable time-period to respond and act upon your commands in situations where the rules allow various outcomes based on how the opposing party reacts. "

There really was no need for immediate lethal action on Dystopian here, as he had his weapon away and was beginning to comply with your orders, @misterjokeman, yet was still killed. To make matters worse, you killed him far too quickly. You must keep voice delay in mind in these situations, Misterjokeman. Even if you had some tangible association to this individual, there was no need to kill DystopianRaven in this situation.

As a result of this player report, @misterjokeman has been issued a 2 day blacklist from weapons for RDM. Player report accepted.