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Your Steam Name: Wallace
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:157028373
Your Character Name: Tetle Tea

Target Steam Name: Nagisa
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:0:155562852
Target Character Name (if known): David Lewis

Request Reason: RDM - I was running down stairs from my apartment and I ran past David, who was holding a gun. I then ran down a second set of stairs and was at the exit door when I read in chat "Somebody yells "*HANDS UP OR DIE*", so I turned around to put my hands up and he gunned me down, this all happened in the space of 3 seconds. I had about 14 foiled hash on me at the time that I lost which I would like to be refunded if possible.

When did the situation occur?: like 6:40pm ish on 31/08/21 (UK time)
Your evidence to support your claim: Unfortunately I do not have a video as I just swapped my GPU yesterday and I forgot to turn on video, but the logs provide sufficient evidence imo.

Additional members involved/witnessing: Afash took my sit and saw that there was only 3 seconds between him telling me to put my hands up or die and killing me.
Read, understood and followed player report rules?: Yes
 

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I had typed in chat to put your hands up(like you said) and your proceeded to run away from me and had no intentions of putting your hands up so I shot you as you didn't comply with my command.

Edit: I said hands up when you where at the top of the stairs and you acknowledged me and still ran away.
 

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If Afash dealt with your sit already, why are you making a player report for the same situation?
 

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Because David had left so Afash could not punish him, so he told me to make a report here. And in response to David, Afash told me it was exactly 3 seconds between you pressing your bind and killing me, which is nowhere near enough time as it takes a second or two to read. And you did not press it when I was at the top of the stairs, I ran past you, you pressed it and when I read it I turned around to have you gun me down so dont lie. If you are not confident about me telling the truth about the 3s time span ask Afash.
 

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Because David had left so Afash could not punish him, so he told me to make a report here. And in response to David, Afash told me it was exactly 3 seconds between you pressing your bind and killing me, which is nowhere near enough time as it takes a second or two to read. And you did not press it when I was at the top of the stairs, I ran past you, you pressed it and when I read it I turned around to have you gun me down so dont lie. If you are not confident about me telling the truth about the 3s time span ask Afash.
Not only did I press that hands up bind, I spoke in game saying hands up multiple times as you were trying to run out of the building. I would of gave you longer if you weren't trying to run away from me.
 

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Literal lies, unfortunately I dont have a video as I just swapped my gpu and the settings got messed up but I assure you if you ask Afash he will tell you that there was 3 seconds between the bind and you killing me, also I stopped at the door when I read what you had put in chat and when I turned to face you, you gunned me down even though I had stopped which is clearly RDM
 

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Also I appreciate people make mistakes and you might have killed me in the heat of the moment without thinking which I can understand as I have also done it before, but as long as I get compensated ill be happy enough with that.
 

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It wasn't in the heat of the moment you just didn't listen to my demands so I shot you. I typed it in game and said it out loud and you decided to run from me.
 

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Lmfao 3 seconds is nowhere near enough time to react, also idk why you keep saying you talked ingame because I did not hear a word from you, I just heard the chat click as I ran past you, read that message and did a 180* to have you gun me down. If you think someone can realise a chat has been posted, read that chat and react to it in the space of 3 seconds you are delusional
 

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Rule Number​
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2.2.14​
You are required to give the opposing party a reasonable time-period to respond and act upon your commands in situations where the rules allow various outcomes based on how the opposing party reacts. You need to make sure the opposing party heard you. Keep the voice-chat delay in mind.​
Insufficient Evidence​

So from logs I can in fact see that there was 3 seconds between the chat command and the shooting. If this were the end of the story, it would definitely be a rule break. But as the reported party claims to have also used voice chat, the lack of video becomes relevant to disprove this possibility.

@hushpuppy555 will not receive any punishments as there is insufficient evidence.

If I've missed anything, or if you would like to discuss any part of this verdict, please let me know through private messages here or on discord.

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