Player Targeting PR

[Bobby McJones]

Your Steam Name: CorporalHawk716
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:245188047
Your Character Name: Bobby McJones

Target Steam Name: Phase Boots
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:0:54456722
Target Character Name (if known): Austin Cofeven

Request Reason: He was player targeting me trying to get me demoted multiple times this past week. And there is also some of him breaking NLR.
When did the situation occur?: 2/26 around 4:00 - 4:08 PM, 2/26 3:13 PM, 2/25 9:49 - 9:50 PM, 2/25 9:43 - 9:45
Your evidence to support your claim:

Additional members involved/witnessing: N/A
Read, understood and followed player report rules?: Yes

 

[PhaseBootz]

You are not providing any context behind these clips. I do not have evidence as I didn't record these incidents, but you have several times ran up to me and said something, always follow me around, mic spam (The Bobby Brown song), cop bait(constantly ramming into me with your vehicle), etc. I'll break each video down separately.

Video 1 (Austin Breaking NLR)

I do not know the context behind this clip/when it occurred and can't really provide an answer/explanation. I probably said it due to the instances below.

Video 2 (Austin Trying to Get Me Demoted)

I drug this dude out because he was trespassing. You were angry that I drug him outside instead of the in the lobby and making it a way bigger deal than it is. You are then saying "I'm a higher rank than you" and telling me to drag in lobby not outside again. Like, I've trespassed in PD several times and have gotten dragged outside, there was nothing wrong with it. I called for your demotion because you were being way over the top about it

Video 3 (Austin Player Targeting)

There is no context behind this, and honestly, I don't remember the situation/why I said that. If I had to imagine, it was from the guy with your earlier clips of you being mad at me for dragging the dude outside. Dragging people outside really isn't a big deal. Either way, it wasn't targeting it was just a complaint lacking context.

Video 4 (Austin Trying to Get Me Demoted Again)

You are trying to separate this into two different instances, when in fact it was part of video 5. This whole instance was related to you wanting me to not book the guy for trespass/acting like a lawyer. I had reason to believe it was you because of what you attempted earlier, although I did not have complete proof. Additionally, you were acting as a lawyer as cop, which is not allowed. So, there was still a valid reason for this demotion, I think.

Video 5 (Austin Breaking NLR #2):

You are not telling the entire story here. As a uniformed officer (who was a higher rank than I was), you were telling me to take him to court and didn't want me to book him. I believe he was in for trespass, and I can deny his right to a lawyer/trial. You are actually just getting involved with an arrest in a wrong manner as you cannot be his lawyer.

Also, you were actively baiting the door, trying to unlock it and let him out repeatedly. Had we left the room, he would've been freed.

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[Bobby McJones]

You are not providing any context behind these clips. I do not have evidence as I didn't record these incidents, but you have several times ran up to me and said something, always follow me around, mic spam (The Bobby Brown song), cop bait(constantly ramming into me with your vehicle), etc. I'll break each video down separately.

Video 1 (Austin Breaking NLR)

I do not know the context behind this clip/when it occurred and can't really provide an answer/explanation. I probably said it due to the instances below.

Video 2 (Austin Trying to Get Me Demoted)

I drug this dude out because he was trespassing. You were angry that I drug him outside instead of the in the lobby and making it a way bigger deal than it is. You are then saying "I'm a higher rank than you" and telling me to drag in lobby not outside again. Like, I've trespassed in PD several times and have gotten dragged outside, there was nothing wrong with it. I called for your demotion because you were being way over the top about it

Video 3 (Austin Player Targeting)

There is no context behind this, and honestly, I don't remember the situation/why I said that. If I had to imagine, it was from the guy with your earlier clips of you being mad at me for dragging the dude outside. Dragging people outside really isn't a big deal. Either way, it wasn't targeting it was just a complaint lacking context.

Video 4 (Austin Trying to Get Me Demoted Again)

You are trying to separate this into two different instances, when in fact it was part of video 5. This whole instance was related to you wanting me to not book the guy for trespass/acting like a lawyer. I had reason to believe it was you because of what you attempted earlier, although I did not have complete proof. Additionally, you were acting as a lawyer as cop, which is not allowed. So, there was still a valid reason for this demotion, I think.

Video 5 (Austin Breaking NLR #2):

You are not telling the entire story here. As a uniformed officer (who was a higher rank than I was), you were telling me to take him to court and didn't want me to book him. I believe he was in for trespass, and I can deny his right to a lawyer/trial. You are actually just getting involved with an arrest in a wrong manner as you cannot be his lawyer.

Also, you were actively baiting the door, trying to unlock it and let him out repeatedly. Had we left the room, he would've been freed.

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I don't follow you around I try to stay away from you because you always have some shit to say (mostly saying you will make another report against me). I don't run into you vehicle unless you are chasing me trying to arrest me. And I play the Bobby Brown Song every once in a while not all the time mic spamming.

Video 1 was right after I joined PD and went upstairs you saw me and said that

Video 2 You were throwing words in my mouth saying I was telling you to leave him upstairs then you said I was "abusing my power" by giving you an order not to dump people outside

Video 3 Same as video 2 you were saying I kept letting the guy run upstairs

Video 4 I don't remember if it tied into video 5 or not but you were still trying to demote me with no proof of letting prisoners out and Andrew Holms even said "Bobby was with us the entire time"

Video 5 I told the guy you were arresting we can take this to court and never told you to not book him. Where am I "actively baiting the door, trying to unlock it and let him out repeatedly" in your video?

 

[PhaseBootz]

Video 5 I told the guy you were arresting we can take this to court and never told you to not book him. Where am I "actively baiting the door, trying to unlock it and let him out repeatedly" in your video?

One of your statements was "I have this on video" after telling me to take it to court and that you're a lawyer. As a Seargent, you should know that you can't be a cop and lawyer at the same time and you should know I can deny the trial/lawyer as the arresting officer. You were just getting involved with your friend since you did not like me arresting him. That is not me player targeting you, it is probably the other way around actually.

As far as the baiting stuff, I don't have that incident recorded. I am not going to look through and try to find it.

Video 1 was right after I joined PD and went upstairs you saw me and said that

I honestly don't remember, nor does that show any context behind it.

Video 4 I don't remember if it tied into video 5 or not but you were still trying to demote me with no proof of letting prisoners out and Andrew Holms even said "Bobby was with us the entire time"

It did tie with video 5. Either way, the prisoner thing is not why I was calling for your demotion. As I said before, you were acting as a lawyer and trying to get the dude free, which is why I called for your demotion.

Video 3 Same as video 2 you were saying I kept letting the guy run upstairs

I mean you were really mad that I drug him outside instead of in the lobby lol. I seriously don't get the issue. I never told him he was trespassing if he was in lobby, he couldve walked back in. I was nice and didn't arrest him for it as trespass is an arrestable offense.

Video 2 You were throwing words in my mouth saying I was telling you to leave him upstairs then you said I was "abusing my power" by giving you an order not to dump people outside

Same reasoning stated above regarding video 3.

I've said my piece. Admins can take action they see fit, I just believe this report is wrong

 

[Bobby McJones]

One of your statements was "I have this on video" after telling me to take it to court and that you're a lawyer. As a Seargent, you should know that you can't be a cop and lawyer at the same time and you should know I can deny the trial/lawyer as the arresting officer. You were just getting involved with your friend since you did not like me arresting him. That is not me player targeting you, it is probably the other way around actually.

As far as the baiting stuff, I don't have that incident recorded. I am not going to look through and try to find it.

I honestly don't remember, nor does that show any context behind it. However, I probably shouldn't have said anything so I will own up to that.


It did tie with video 5. Either way, the prisoner thing is not why I was calling for your demotion. As I said before, you were acting as a lawyer and trying to get the dude free, which is why I called for your demotion.

I mean you were really mad that I drug him outside instead of in the lobby lol. I seriously don't get the issue. I never told him he was trespassing if he was in lobby, he couldve walked back in. I was nice and didn't arrest him for it as trespass is an arrestable offense.


Same reasoning stated above regarding video 3.

I've said my piece. Admins can take action they see fit, I just believe this report is wrong

I said I have this on video because you told the chief I was trying to free him. I didn’t have my cuffs out ready to uncuff the guy. I said I’m a lawyer we can take this to court. He had never requested a trial so you hadn’t denied it yet. I didn’t know I couldn’t be a lawyer as a cop as I have seen cops be lawyers before in court. The guy was not my friend either I didn’t know the guy that was trespassing, I always tell people that I’m a lawyer.

Video 4 has nothing to do with the lawyer incident. Someone was letting prisoners out and you said it’s got to be Bobby.

Video 3 and 2 you told the chief what I didn’t say. You said I was letting people go upstairs, I said leave people in the lobby.

 

[heyitskev]

Hello, thank you for your report! This thread has now been locked for review. Please expect a response in the next 24 hours.

 

[heyitskev]

After a long review of this report, I have made the following observations:

SUMMARY

CLIP 1

This clip does not show Austin breaking NLR in any way, shape, or form. It simply shows his presence in PD with no context of the events that occurred before.

CLIP 2

There is Insufficient evidence to show that Austin dragged someone randomly out of PD (He claims he was up the stairs, but @Bobby McJones ' clip does not show when Austin initially started dragging the suspect). If someone is trespassing in PD, officers reserve the right to escort them outside of the whole PD. Starting an argument over this was not appropriate. However, as the higher-ranking officer Austin should have listened to your orders.

This is not a case of corruption on @Bobby McJones ' part. With this being said though, Austin reserves every right to discuss the situation with a higher authority within the police department. However, unless your orders are corrupt ones (which in this case they are not), the lower ranking officer should obey them until the discussion with said higher authority. Calling for your demotion over this was not the right call, but you can't call it player targeting.

CLIP 3

Once again, this clip does not show sufficient evidence that Austin was player targeting, all it does is show him vaguely referencing the situation that occurred in Clip # 2 over radio.

CLIP 4

In this clip, Austin does appear to make a baseless accusation against @Bobby McJones in regards to releasing prisoners. Telling other officers that another LEO is corrupt and partaking in crime when they are not doing so, is not appropriate.

CLIP 5

Just like in the first clip, there is no evidence of Austin breaking NLR. In addition, calling him "retar*ed" was not appropriate, no matter how angry he made @Bobby McJones.

VERDICTS

As a result of the above observations, I have issued the following verdicts:

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
2.1.3​	You may not return to the area you died at for a timespan of 10 minutes (NLR)​	@PhaseBootz​	Inconclusive​

There is simply not enough evidence in any of the clips that @Bobby McJones has provided to prove that Austin ever broke NLR.

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
1.13​	You may not grief, troll, harass or do other things with the intention of annoying other players.​	@PhaseBootz​	Guilty​

We do not have an official rule that states "you can't player target," as it is generally assumed that it should not be allowed and is normally left to staff discretion. However in this case, @PhaseBootz made baseless accusations towards @Bobby McJones that prisoners were being released by him, despite that not being the case.

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
1.2​	This community has respect as a core value; therefore, we ask that you treat everybody with respect and give them a chance to experience the community. Treat those the way you would want to be treated.​	@Bobby McJones​	Guilty​

Calling @PhaseBootz "retar*ed" is not acceptable.

Rule Number​	Rule​	Accused​	Verdict​
5.1.7​	Corruption is allowed with permission from a Senior Administrator or above. The permissions are automatically void when the authorizing staff member leaves the server.​	@Bobby McJones​	Inconclusive​

There is not sufficient evidence to show that @Bobby McJones was being corrupt. Nothing shows that he let anyone out of jail. Please note though, that in the future, if you are playing on PD, your job is to be a police officer, not a lawyer.

CONCLUSION

As a result of the above verdict, the following has occured:

@PhaseBootz has been issued a verbal warning for Player Targeting.

@Bobby McJones has been issued a verbal warning for Player Disrespect.

If I've missed anything, or if you would like to discuss any part of this verdict, please let me know through private messages here or on discord.

Player Report Partially Accepted

Locked and Moved