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Your Steam Name: Aziel
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:40314953
Your Character Name: Daniel Smith

Target Steam Name: Saints @Frank Saints singapore9922
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:1:120321312 STEAM_0:1:244566583
Target Character Name (if known): Frank Saints

Request Reason: Saints gave ammo and probably the gun to this player and told him to rdm me and another guy. I am also reporting the other guy for rdm x2
When did the situation occur?: 02:29 gmt +1
Your evidence to support your claim: Situation before I get killed: https://streamable.com/asmu1z Saints making a new player rdm x2: https://streamable.com/hpfh9u

Additional members involved/witnessing:
Read, understood and followed player report rules?: Yes
 
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you were a detective we already knew because you put your sirens on your car and drove past, plus we are pd raiding and you were just standing in the middle of the doors idk what you expect to happen
 

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you were a detective we already knew because you put your sirens on your car and drove past, plus we are pd raiding and you were just standing in the middle of the doors idk what you expect to happen
  1. Surrendered parties (in a Raid, Mugging, Kidnapping and/or Robbery) may not be killed unless they are actively resisting, not valuing their life, threatening to kill or snitch on you, yelling for help or the Law Enforcement, or fail to fulfil requested demands.

I was not in the middle of the doors because you walked in and out multiple times and if I was in the way you have to tell me that and make me move.

It is clear in the video that you already know this so instead you make a new player rdm x2 and possibly more.

I did not have sirens on and "drive past" you are clearly confusing me with someone or maybe you mean 1-2 hours before the pd raid when I had sirens on my car.

  1. Reasons for killing another player last until your character dies (NLR), you become aware that the other party has died (NLR), or until one hour has passed since the cause of the reason occurred.


Your entire response is false and even if it was not false it is still not a valid reason to kill me.
 

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  1. Surrendered parties (in a Raid, Mugging, Kidnapping and/or Robbery) may not be killed unless they are actively resisting, not valuing their life, threatening to kill or snitch on you, yelling for help or the Law Enforcement, or fail to fulfil requested demands.
2.4.1 You must correctly follow FearRP when a situation calls for it, such as when you are being held at gunpoint. Roleplay should reflect on how you would approach a similar situation in real-life.

literally for the whole duration of your video, you are standing right outside of the doors while an ongoing pd raid is going on. if there are 5 gunmen inside of a building and you are fully aware of that, wouldnt you want to leave as soon as possible? we had all right to kill you weather you had your hands up or not cause youre not valuing your life at all. why would you just stand outside with your hands up right in front of the doors knowing this is going on? in the video i tell you to keep your hands up but decide to have my friend kill you because i know you're literally a detective
I did not have sirens on and "drive past" you are clearly confusing me with someone or maybe you mean 1-2 hours before the pd raid when I had sirens on my car.
you were already called out for being a detective multiple times, really not much to say than i knew you were a detective

also im getting reported for telling someone to kill you and they did so why is this report on me and not on that individual smh
 

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2.4.1 You must correctly follow FearRP when a situation calls for it, such as when you are being held at gunpoint. Roleplay should reflect on how you would approach a similar situation in real-life.

literally for the whole duration of your video, you are standing right outside of the doors while an ongoing pd raid is going on. if there are 5 gunmen inside of a building and you are fully aware of that, wouldnt you want to leave as soon as possible? we had all right to kill you weather you had your hands up or not cause youre not valuing your life at all. why would you just stand outside with your hands up right in front of the doors knowing this is going on? in the video i tell you to keep your hands up but decide to have my friend kill you because i know you're literally a detective

you were already called out for being a detective multiple times, really not much to say than i knew you were a detective

also im getting reported for telling someone to kill you and they did so why is this report on me and not on that individual smh

The situation started as a shootout next to pd and not a pd raid thats why when your friend told me to run away I ran to pd but then I get chased so I just put my hands up. I get told to stay and just look at pd the entire time and that is what I did. Here is the video showing that situation: https://streamable.com/asmu1z ( I will also add it in my report )


I already asked staff before making this report and they said that I can report you for this and in my opinion I think you should get the full punishment. The guy in the video clearly dont know the rules but you do and he even says "you sure should I?" before killing me and you just keep confirming that he has to kill me. This is clearly your way of continuing to break rules when you have a weapon blacklist by making people do it for you.


You can stop trying to find a rule I broke and just admit that you were in the wrong.
 

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LMAO the video literally shows in the beginning of my friend telling you to leave. ALTHOUGH at the end he tells you to stay, you still choose to run to the pd, like wtf?? we knew you were a detective.

in the video, at 0:12, someone points their gun at you and you put your hands up, no demand given. at 0:35 is when we start to enter the pd

you have 20-23 seconds to leave the area but continue to stay in the vicinity. you can continue to cry about it when getting killed on detective losing nothing whatsoever while also failing to value your life in an active shootout/raid. i smh
This is clearly your way of continuing to break rules when you have a weapon blacklist by making people do it for you.
having people do it for me? in my own situation if i wasnt on a weapons blacklist i wouldve probably killed you sooner and this wouldnt have been a report in the first place, but the way i see you play is like spectating a npc. you shouldve left the area when he told you to but you decide run to PD which is right next to/in front of the shootout and youre just walking around watching us fight, act realistically and leave the area and this wouldnt have happened

please keep in mind we literally already know youre a detective as ive mentioned 3 times, you're kos anyways, in the video one of my assailants even called you out for being a narc. we gave you a chance to leave and you didnt take it thats why you were killed
 

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LMAO the video literally shows in the beginning of my friend telling you to leave. ALTHOUGH at the end he tells you to stay, you still choose to run to the pd, like wtf?? we knew you were a detective.

in the video, at 0:12, someone points their gun at you and you put your hands up, no demand given. at 0:35 is when we start to enter the pd

you have 20-23 seconds to leave the area but continue to stay in the vicinity. you can continue to cry about it when getting killed on detective losing nothing whatsoever while also failing to value your life in an active shootout/raid. i smh

having people do it for me? in my own situation if i wasnt on a weapons blacklist i wouldve probably killed you sooner and this wouldnt have been a report in the first place, but the way i see you play is like spectating a npc. you shouldve left the area when he told you to but you decide run to PD which is right next to/in front of the shootout and youre just walking around watching us fight, act realistically and leave the area and this wouldnt have happened

please keep in mind we literally already know youre a detective as ive mentioned 3 times, you're kos anyways, in the video one of my assailants even called you out for being a narc. we gave you a chance to leave and you didnt take it thats why you were killed
None of your friends were planning to kill me because they actually know the rules. it does not matter where I run because you guys knew I was a detective for some reason and kept chasing me so the only way I would live was to stay in my position and surrender. I will just leave this here again and not reply because you keep giving these excuses that does not even matter you are still in the wrong.

  1. Surrendered parties (in a Raid, Mugging, Kidnapping and/or Robbery) may not be killed unless they are actively resisting, not valuing their life, threatening to kill or snitch on you, yelling for help or the Law Enforcement, or fail to fulfil requested demands.
 

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After reviewing the evidence and statements I have come to the following conclusion.

The Player who preformed the RDM will receive a verbal as he (regardless of his intentions) did RDM you and should have read the rules beforehand.
Player @Frank Saints 3 WPs for making someone RDM player @Aziel and there for also ignoring the "surrendered parties" rule.
(Player @Aziel was told to leave in the beginning of the situation [which he did by going towards PD from his initial spot].
Afterwards he got chased down by one of the criminals and so raised his hands [Which he can do and continue to do so for as long as he feels like his life would be in danger if he were to lower them and start to run away].
One of the criminals confirms a demand to: "Keep on looking into PD". [Meaning that without a next demand he has to remain in place and look inside].)
Summary: player @Aziel didn't break any rules that would allow you to shoot him in his surrendered state

Player Report Accepted
 
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