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[Walter Scott]

Your Steam Name: RedSpeeds
Your SteamID: 76561198133999766
Your Character Name: Walter Scott

Target Steam Name: mr buck, Alfie
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:0:91060312, STEAM_0:1:88569324
Target Character Name (if known): John Buck, Alfie Mikael, John Mikael

Request Reason: Metagaming - Camping drop off
When did the situation occur?: 11/17/2021 @ 3:01:24 PM EST
Your evidence to support your claim: https://streamable.com/4zo7t6 https://streamable.com/zebut2

Additional members involved/witnessing: @Skies George ppifa dan lebeau
Read, understood and followed player report rules?: Yes

 

[Territory Owner]

Sorry to tell you but you got 1v3d I wasn't even there. Also was told by staff that civs can go to the drop off point, just not cops.
If you got gambling logs that will prove it...

 

[John Buck]

I love how your evidence consists of us driving PAST the drop off point, wanna give us longer than 3 seconds showing when we were at the drop off point waiting for it?

Also for the fact, we saw you get in a chase with the teal car and we were following you from that, your car crashed or something and we overtook you.

 

[Skies]

Just give us our 4 loadouts back and the diamond. You both were in the radio and you alfie said you were gonna camp the drop off and john ended up being the one to fr camp it (he was in the radio too) This is second time this has happened from you guys in my personal experience. John literally chased us and shot us with no initiation or anything for no reason. You can see his car stopped after we stopped at drop off and you hear no cars pass by after we all get out of our cars at drop off. He got out of his car with the intention to kill the people at drop off, thats why he immediately started shooting at me with no hesitation once at the drop area, therefor camping! Might I mention John never came in voice range to me or rammed me specfically and killed me. THIS IS ALSO BETTER PROOF OF THEM STOPPING TO CAMP (PROOF)

 

[John Buck]

Yet again, same clip that shows nothing but you calling me out and your friend saying to kill us without initiating? It's a little funny how you're refusing to show what happened beforehand, could you stop showing a few second clips and show me the full length of what happened?

 

[Skies]

The point of making the clip longer was to show you stopping which you said you just drove past which was false, quit changing topics buddy
Might I also mention we had all rights to kill you if you say over a radio youre gonna camp drop off in Roleplay and then show up and ram one of us with your car outside of drop off stopping so like you make no sense on why we have no reason to start trying to kill you

 

[Territory Owner]

Stop bring up my name I wasn't even there in the first place I was gambling.

 

[John Buck]

The point of making the clip longer was to show you stopping which you said you just drove past which was false, quit changing topics buddy
Might I also mention we had all rights to kill you if you say over a radio youre gonna camp drop off in Roleplay and then show up and ram one of us with your car outside of drop off stopping so like you make no sense on why we have no reason to start trying to kill you

Alfie had made a joke and he had been gambling at the time. But show the full clip please, I would like to see what happened before hand, not a 3 second context clip buddy. I was following you beforehand and had never camped drop-off.

 

[Arroyo]

yes, it does due to the fact the person reporting these people broke the same rule and wasn't punished for it. Which should result with these players not being punished either. By the way @Arroyo said this was completely allowed

I do not remember saying camping drop off point was allowed, if I did that’s a my bad but I do not remember saying it. No one is allowed to camp drop off point, you must specifically follow the raiders to the drop off point every time

 

[Walter Scott]

We managed to accidentally get on your freq and the moment you learned we were doing jewlery you guys said you would be waiting at dropoff and behold your shelby omni is parked right in long tunnel and started following us the moment we drove past you can see in the clip you stopped your car we had a little friendly fire incident and logs show John Mikael AKA John Buck (He changed his name after this event, SUS!) killing @Skies you had all intent on camping drop-off so unless you can prove you didnt and somehow happened to know the exact car we were driving and somehow miraculously was in the same place on accident you committed meta-gaming. Im not gonna put any more into this you guys are notorious for breaking rules and have not shown any improvements in that regards

 

[John Buck]

We managed to accidentally get on your freq and the moment you learned we were doing jewlery you guys said you would be waiting at dropoff and behold your shelby omni is parked right in long tunnel and started following us the moment we drove past you can see in the clip you stopped your car we had a little friendly fire incident and logs show John Mikael AKA John Buck (He changed his name after this event, SUS!) killing @Skies you had all intent on camping drop-off so unless you can prove you didnt and somehow happened to know the exact car we were driving and somehow miraculously was in the same place on accident you committed meta-gaming. Im not gonna put any more into this you guys are notorious for breaking rules and have not shown any improvements in that regards

My Shelby Omni was not ***magically!*** parked there, if you actually went back in your clip, you could see I was way behind the two cars and I had begun to overtake the BMW after it crashed at the beginning of the turn in the long tunnel. Also, I don't believe I changed my name, admins correct me if I'm wrong, I just didn't reintroduce myself to the person recording the video and I think it is a visual bug.

- Yours Truly
John Buck

 

[Skojen]

Under Review.

 

[Skojen]

Hello @Walter Scott,

Unfortunately, your video evidence isn't sufficient enough for me to process this player report. However, that is not to say that 'camping drop-off' is allowed. The first clip that you had provided seemed like the reported party were taunting you as a joke. But in the second provided video clip, it isn't clear if their intention was to stay at the static drop-off point. Unless if you have more footage of the situation, I will be able to see the full extent of the situation and what took place for context. Otherwise, I will be denying this player report.

Player report denied.