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[Weedle]

Your Steam Name: Weedle
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:123062165
Your Character Name: Sharky TwoTimezz

Target Steam Name: RedSpeeds
Target SteamID: 76561198133999766
Target Character Name (if known): @Walter Scott

Request Reason: Rdm x2 and cop baitig
When did the situation occur?: 2:51 CST and 2:56 CST
Your evidence to support your claim: (https://streamable.com/h5axl7) and (https://streamable.com/ik61a3)

Additional members involved/witnessing:
Read, understood and followed player report rules?:yurrr

 

[Walter Scott]

Hey there. lets get into it shall we?
First video we were basing there and 3 of us had class 3s equipped so we killed you before you could call in backup.
Second video we were attempting a bank raid but discovered not enough pd was on so we decided to push out and leave

 

[Weedle]

in the first video you could see I saw no one except you with a class 3 And I was going to find where my buddy was and go fuck around with him but i stumbled around the wrong house I walked right to the door said "Oh shit wrong house" and got shot for it you could have asked me to leave in which I would've and still cop baiting driving around with class 3s for no reason
The second video you did l2 and ya you found it there wasn't enough cops, that doesn't mean open fire and leave you should have followed through with the negotiations and kept going in rp instead of shooting and leaving

 

[Walter Scott]

in the first video you could see I saw no one except you with a class 3 And I was going to find where my buddy was and go fuck around with him but i stumbled around the wrong house I walked right to the door said "Oh shit wrong house" and got shot for it you could have asked me to leave in which I would've and still cop baiting driving around with class 3s for no reason
The second video you did l2 and ya you found it there wasn't enough cops, that doesn't mean open fire and leave you should have followed through with the negotiations and kept going in rp instead of shooting and leaving

Not true 2 others in the porch had class-3s as we just got raided by a light-blue skyline
The mayor wasnt our hostage he was not ziptied

 

[Weedle]

The first clip ok thats fine but still the second you had 2+ guns on him making him a hostage

 

[CrackNweeD]

Just to elaborate on the second clip. Once we started the bank raid, police officers had gotten off so we couldn't start the drills. Due to rule changes, we couldn't stay and wait for something to become of value. Spaced Sloth was spectating the raid and told us we could not stay for more cops to get online. Since it was a failed raid the "hostage" became null and void so we had to kill you when we left.

Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/5CAE6GFYEGDBm/d1337L8HhC1I?invite=cr-MSxPREYsOTkxNDE3MSw

Note: In the clip, my mic is off so at the 44-second mark when Brandon Ppiffa asks "how long can we wait" I replied, "as long as we want". That's why Spaced Sloth says "no you cant".

 

[Arroyo]

Under Review

 

[Arroyo]

Rule Number	Rule	Accused	Verdict
2.2.4	Attacking to kill should be carried out sensibly and not as a first resort unless you have a good reason for immediate lethal action.	@Walter Scott	Violated
2.2.8	You may not kill a Law Enforcement Officer unless you have a valid roleplay reason to do so. These could include but are not limited to, visibly carrying illegal weapons or visibly performing an illegal activity. These reasons depend on the context. If police are attempting to initiate an arrest on you while you are carrying hidden illegal items in your inventory, that is a valid reason to kill them.	@Walter Scott	Violated
4.1.2.6	Hostage takers cannot end negotiations if the Police Department is complying with their demands, as long as such demands are allowed by the rules.	@Walter Scott	Violated

In regards to the first situation, this situation could have been easily roleplayed on both sides. @Weedle as an LT. of the police force, going up to a house's porch ignoring everyone on your way is unprofessional by police standards. You should not be going to your friend's house to mess around on the job, you can do that off duty. Now @Walter Scott, you did not need to kill the officer on your porch. As shown in the video, the officer was on the porch and people around were unequipped and had no weapons out on sight. The only weapon I see equipped was at timestamp 0:10 but that person could have easily avoided the entire situation, unequip and continue rp. You were just pulling up to the house when the officer walked onto the porch and you immediately gun him down, instead, you could have just unequipped in the car and told the officer to leave. Since he is on your property you could have officially trespassed him off. There was no need for guns here.

In regards to the second situation, it is true you are not allowed to wait for bank raid timers. However, if you have a hostage and PD is willing to negotiate then you must negotiate. It does not matter if the hostage is zip tied or not, if you have someone against their will in a raid and PD are willing to negotiate you have to continue rp until the time comes where PD is unwilling to negotiate. In the second video, I can just hear "just kill him," with the mayor's hands in the air and the officer just trying to communicate. This is extremely unfair on both sides in terms of roleplay. As a result;

@Walter Scott will receive 1 WP for FailRP & RDM

Furthermore, the deaths will be voided. You are free to request any lost items in the refund request section of the forums using the format found here.

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