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Hazer

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Your Steam Name: Hazer
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:461832765
Your Character Name: Greyson Casey

Target Steam Name: Not Vladamir Putin
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:0:173418825
Target Character Name (if known):

Target Steam Name: DystopianRaven
Target SteamID: STEAM_0:0:144285202
Target Character Name (if known):

Reason: RDM, NITRP, (shot and killed credence in the back, and killed me for no absolute reason.


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Additional Members : @Credence
 

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Hey,

Im going to establish context first:
So the Monoford cartel had a grievance with the Chief (not mine and Aleskis org) and this Cartel member asked me to hit the chief for a $5/7k reward. Logs can prove the interaction when a text offer was made via the monophone. I agreed to the hit offer, walked away to radio the hit, I was going to do it myself but Aleski offered when I told him where we all were.
You can hear me in the video prompting the cartel member about the chief who was now laying on the pavement as Greyson drives off from the scene.

The rules:
As I understand there is no rule that prevents the roleplay of a hitman, and to be clear I don't actively RP as a hitman, the cartel member just offered and I accepted. The reason to kill lies with the hirer, in this case @JDerHans (STEAM_0:1:24769790), don't know his forum name. We just carried out his wishes, didn't end to well for us as seen, but know Aleski didn't shoot for no reason, it was from my order as the hired hitman.
If we want to know why the cartel member wanted the chief dead, we must ask him, we were just the hired guns.

Notes:
Greyson Casey the Capt. was more collateral than anything, the chief and the capt had been rolling around the entire night and inseparable. Sorry he got dragged into the plot.
 

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Hello, thank you for this report! As @Bancho has failed to respond in almost 3 months, this report will now be locked for review. Expect a response shortly!
 

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After a long review of this report, I have made the following observations:

SUMMARY

We have no server rules that state "you can not hire a hitman" there are a few observations that I have made that lead me to believe "questionable" activity has accrued.

The Hit Target
The first thing I would like to bring attention to is the target of @DystopianRaven 's hit. I sifted through logs and I was able to find that @DystopianRaven did indeed have a conversation with @Der Hans regarding a hit. However, @Der Hans did not specify the hit target. He simply said "I got 5 gs that says PC goes bye." Given that there was both a Police Chief and Captain on at the time, there was no way of knowing which individual @Der Hans was referring to when @DystopianRaven agreed to the hit.

The Reasoning Behind The Hit
A hit reason was not established between the hitman and the hit issuer. @DystopianRaven agreed to kill the police chief without any reason to do so. In other words, @DystopianRaven agreed to kill someone simply because someone else that was completely unrelated to them told them to.

VERDICT

As a result of the above observations, I have issued the following verdict:

Rule Number​
Rule​
Accused​
Verdict​
2.2.1​
Rule Violated

@DystopianRaven & @Bancho essentially killed @Hazer and the police chief because someone told them to. "Because they said so" is not a valid in-Character reason to kill someone.

CONCLUSION

As a result of the above verdict, the following has occurred:

@DystopianRaven & @Bancho have received verbal warnings in regards to their actions. I do not feel comfortable issuing any sort of severe punishment in this case given that this is kind of a grey line. In the future, if you chose to accept hits, please ensure that you verify who the hit target is, that the person requesting the hit has a valid reason to do so, and that you record the whole interaction from beginning to end just in case.

If I've missed anything, or if you would like to discuss any part of this verdict, please let me know through private messages here or on discord.

Player Report Accepted

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