RDM when it wasnt RDM at all.

[reactskate]

Your Steam Name: DrippinSauceMane
Your Steam ID:

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Your Character Name: Grant Abdul

Ban Length: 7 Days
Banning Staff Member (@AdminName to mention the staff member): @friskiemar @Maj.Kat

Ban Reason: Blatant RDM
Unban Reason: It wasn't rdm I literally was being shot at by these guys at there house. Friskie said you can kill the people but not the sheriff because I called the cops and they arrested but unarrested the people for some reason. Then I found them at the vehicle mechanic I literally sent a screenshot of what I sent to the sheriff at the time I legit knew that was the people at that base and it was and they shot at me which was why I called the cops because you cant make false 911 calls which I was told I made and somehow didn't get warned for anyways which is dumb because I was told I made a false 911 call basically because the people didn't shoot at me apparently. So I hopped out tried initiating but they drove away after hitting my car which did damage but i was stopped hopping out when they hit it trying to initate like i said. So I started shooting at them then they hopped out pulled weapons out and I killed one and the other guy killed me. Then a witness came in and gave a video of what I just explained which was friskie but friskie was the one helping me out with the sheriff situation where these people shot at me but then in the sit friskie lied and said he didn't know about that situation when he was legit telling me to kill them in the !help chat not the sheriff for being corrupt and not arresting the people that shot and all pointed guns at me which was the people I shot at they legit shot at my car when I was trying to pull up and said in ooc get off OUR property so ya I shot at those people theres nothing wrong with this at all youre just trying to make it seem like theres something wrong with it when literally there was nothing wrong with the kill. Also the video friskie gave doesn't mean anything when Im literally not lying its literally what happened they were starting to chase me too because I was also shooting at them and they knew it because I was trying to raid them. This is not rdm these people are trying to basically have me banned just because.
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Time of Occurrence: 1:36am
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[friskiemar]

Here is a load of evidence and a few statements:

Exhibit A





You asked if you could kill the Sheriff because he did not arrest two guys for shooting at you and your car. I told you no you cannot, you proceeded to argue with me and I told you that if you did kill the Sheriff that it would not be taken lightly as you were told you CANNOT kill the Sheriff for that reason. It is not a valid roleplay reason. I then told you that you could kill the two guys who where shooting at your base/shot at your car/shot at you.

Next

I receive police call saying that there is some suspicious activity going on over at the taxi place. So I respond to the situation Code 1 (the call was completely unrelated). When I pull up to the scene, I see the two defendants of the report made on you backing away from you and their car is damaged (defendants claimed that they came out of the mechanic and repaired their car so I don't know why it is smoking. I then see you pull out your UMP and spray them down, as soon as I see your UMP I come out and start shooting at you (see Exhibit B).

Exhibit B

*Available upon request, sensitive staff information*

Next

You claim that these two guys came and shot up your car and your house for no reason. What I find odd is that right after you made that report, you shot at somebody who was NOT one of the two individuals later on. Then you proceeded to close that report after what I would assume you killing them. (see Exhibit C)

Exhibit C


The fact that you made a report, killed the guy that I would assume shot at you, then closed that report meant that you handled that situation in character. Which means that it plays out in character. Also, you claimed that you made a police report to the Sheriff via iMessage which is not a police report (view Exhibit D). The reason why the Sheriff never took your "police report" is because you had no evidence. And you also did not have evidence when you RDM'd the two individuals. When we asked you if you had any evidence to support your claim that one or both of the defendants were present during the shooting at your base you simply responded with "check my iMessages that I sent to the Sheriff" which is not evidence. We cannot go based off of word of mouth (this is the same scenario as the previous staff report made on me by the same individual "reactsnake").

Next

After you were killed during that fire fight. You decided to PM me about it, you continued to metagame for whatever reason (view Exhibit D).

Exhibit D



Next

The unpleasant things you said in and iMessage (view Exhibit E) (jColborn was the Sheriff at the time) and /looc (again) (view Exhibit F). Breaking character after I told you that you could not kill the Sheriff and that he was not a threat to your life for not arresting people because you had no evidence to support your claim (view Exhibit G).

Exhibit E



Exhibit F


Exhibit G




Next

"So I hopped out tried initiating but they drove away after hitting my car which did damage but i was stopped hopping out when they hit it trying to initate like i said"

Exhibit H



Last I recall, if somebody gets bumped by a car while they are in a car the damage gets logged.

And there is only one instance of you getting damaged by either one of those defendants vehicles (view Exhibit I).

Exhibit I



Which one was it? Are you telling the truth at this point? Or did logs fail to detect that (does not happen)?

Next

"friskie lied and said he didn't know about that situation when he was legit telling me to kill them in the !help chat"

I never lied to you because you never even brought that up in the sit. You were allowed to kill the two people that damaged your car, but those two people were not the ones that damaged your car as you had no evidence to back it up. Just as in raids, if a police officer wants to start a raid he has to have evidence. If you wanted to kill somebody or get them arrested, you have to have evidence for exact situations like this. Also, you cannot call the Sheriff corrupt for simply denying you and saying that if you do not have evidence then he cannot do anything about it. You also failed to give the Sheriff a statement in person. (view Exhibit J and K)

Exhibit J



Exhibit K



In Conclusion

-Some people shot up your house and car. You killed one, you filed a report and closed it
-The Sheriff has some people in custody and wants to ask you a few questions but you fail to comply
-Without evidence the Sheriff released them from custody
-You proceed to break character several times and were very rude (ooc, looc, and iMessage)
-You killed 2 uninvolved parties as far as logs and evidence show
-You were reported for RDM
-You were also reported for saying that you were going to report somebody by the Sheriff
-There was no evidence to support your claim
-You were banned for 1 week
-I have nothing to do with this as I was not the admin taking the sit, I was just the one with the recording
-You showed and overall lack of intention to roleplay at all
-The only "evidence" available was the fact that you shot somebody right after you made a report saying somebody shot your car
-Nobody else dealt you damage in that time frame, and you did not deal anybody else damage in that time frame

Hypothetical Scenario 1

Lets say that they were the ones that shot up your car and house.

-You shot them and they killed you
-You handled it in character
-You died
-You made a report (which would have been denied because you cant call the Sheriff corrupt for not arresting people without evidence)
-You were very rude out of character wise
-You failed to provide evidence to the Sheriff that they were the ones that shot your house
-You failed to provide evidence that they shot at you and your car (and logs showed no damage)

Hypothetical Scenario 2

Lets say that they were NOT the ones that shot at your house but were there when it happened and the Sheriff detained them.

-You did not positively ID them because you refused to show up
-You still handled it in character by shooting them up then getting shot down
-You made a report (denied again)
-You were very rude ooc
-You failed to provide evidence that they were the ones that in fact shot up your house



End

There is a plethora of evidence against you. You handled the situation poorly both in character and out of character. Next time please be more mindful.

 

[Maj.Kat]

Overall Situation: In this incident you were being accused of RDM by two other players in which they both said that they were shot at because they slightly hit your car, they were oblivious to any prior situations with you. Your excuse was, "I killed them because they hit my car," and then you kept fluctuating to another point that about 15 minutes prior to that incident that you got into a gunfight with them in which they apparently did damage, so you chased them down and killed them. Another Moderator (friskie) and I both extensively checked the logs and found no proof of the sort. The two players also stated that no encounter actually happened. I don't know if you flat out lied or you were shot at by other players. But from the many different cases of evidence it seemed like you either flat out lied and tried to get yourself out of a punishment, or something confused you. You basically denied that the situation confused you because you said you were very positive these were the players that opened fire on you. Which had no evidence to prove it and evidence basically contradicting that statement. All the evidence was already shown above from friskie's post.
Result: After looking at your extensive history of breaking rules, you should know how things operate by now. I think your're pretty lucky to of only gotten a 1 week ban. Your actions were blatant and a result you were punished.

As a result of the whole situation your ban appeal has been denied and will stay at 1 week (may be extended.)