Skojenmeister & Thegamingshain Staff Report

[Nagisa]

Your Steam Name: Nagisa
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:155562852
Your Character Name (If Applicable): Dexter Brown

Admin being reported( Tag by writing @ before their forum name) @Skojenmeister @Thegamingshain

Reason for Report: Unfreezing props and deleting props causing us to get stuck in them mid police raid. This wouldn't be an issue if they would of just paused it instead of making us move props and defend at the same time.

Time of Occurrence: 5:00 PM EST

Evidence to support your claim: Https://medal.tv/clips/56604415/d1337zRRT5iD

Additional members involved/witnessing: @TheLoser27 @Kaizen @HockeyExpert30 @hop1003 @Max Vercetti @Jack Lee
Read, understood and followed staff report rules?: Yes

 

[Skojen]

[2.5.2] You must support your props accordingly and not go against the law of physics.

 

[Nagisa]

I understand that, but if you paused the raid it would have been fair. It just seems to be unprofessional to do what u did.

 

[Jack Lee]

I think walls are called walls and not floors for a reason. I dont think it is "against the laws of physics" to put a wall up right and freeze them there.

 

[Al límite]

I was apart of this situation multiple of us either died or were shot down to low health and impacted because of the staff memebers throwing the props on the ground and them freezing us allowing police to shoot us , I think the reason this report is mainly created is you have the power to pause a raid if the situation is needed yet did not and impacted rp which favoured the cops.

 

[shain]

This was the rule break you broke when you set this raid up. You should have known this from the start, you knew what was bound to happen when u violated this rule. An easy unfreeze would have solved this.

[2.5.2] You must support your props accordingly and not go against the law of physics.



Best Regards,
Shain

 

[robertsoliver932]

I was apart of the raid, as we were getting ready outside you were pushing the props about, when I’m guessing they were removing your props you were still shooting at us throw wall so I don’t see the problem?

after the raid and we entered the property we found towers of I think printers?? That were useded as cover which it’s kinda stupid.

After the raiD had finished about 1-2 mines later you or your group ended the lease when officers were still about in the rp of the raid investigating and looking around we then rerammed the door bc we were thinking someone has gone n and locked them selfs in, your props were still in said property.

what they did was right I saw a washing machine I think in the window come on my guy they don’t need to tell us to stop if your still shooting at us.

Edit: after seeing the video I get what your mean but like my guy you never like said to us nor did your try and say there’s a staff thing as shown, also your guy is using props to make him higher to shoot to me that a form of prop climbing like come on me got you bc of are skill well not me I’m well bad but like the prop should have not bean like that in the first place the staff where unfreezes go them so show you the problem and so it did not interrupt rp when you started putting them back and complaining then yu

oliver roberts, monolith PD

 

[Nagisa]

This was the rule break you broke when you set this raid up. You should have known this from the start, you knew what was bound to happen when u violated this rule. An easy unfreeze would have solved this.

[2.5.2] You must support your props accordingly and not go against the law of physics.



Best Regards,
Shain

I understand that the props were a rule break I dont understand why you had to handle it the way you did we had a chance of winning it and you took it all away due to unprofessional with all due respect.

 

[Al límite]

This was the rule break you broke when you set this raid up. You should have known this from the start, you knew what was bound to happen when u violated this rule. An easy unfreeze would have solved this, not for a raid to be paused.

[2.5.2] You must support your props accordingly and not go against the law of physics.

The unfreezing impacted raid in were mutiple of us died or were severily wounded, If you wish to change a situation you should pause it when staff want to interviene. I would also like to point out that we did not set up the windows props it was a sa lmfao so try again.

after the raid and we entered the property we found towers of I think printers?? That were useded as cover which it’s kinda stupid.

Not Against the rules ,

 

[shain]

The unfreezing impacted raid in were mutiple of us died or were severily wounded, If you wish to change a situation you should pause it when staff want to interviene. I would also like to point out that we did not set up the windows props it was a sa lmfao so try again.

I don't think that's what happened, you took the time to get out your physgun and freeze the prop back up on the window, this wouldn't have happened if you guys were in the middle of a shootout

 

[Nagisa]

I don't think that's what happened, you took the time to get out your physgun and freeze the prop back up on the window, this wouldn't have happened if you guys were in the middle of a shootout

We lost half of our fire power because of people having to pull out there physgun and move the props you got us frozen on.

 

[robertsoliver932]

The unfreezing impacted raid in were mutiple of us died or were severily wounded, If you wish to change a situation you should pause it when staff want to interviene. I would also like to point out that we did not set up the windows props it was a sa lmfao so try again.

Not Against the rules ,

I never said it was agents the rules I gave my opinion on a matter I was highly involved in, I believe that the staff members had every right todo what they did as they were handling the situation without fighting with police to stop raiding and you lot to not shoot, we could not get up to you anyway so you can complain about losing fire power when your spraying the entry to the apartment so my guy you complaining about fire power is not something you can complain about as game said if you had not done a base like that there would have not bean a problem but like your guys died other by other shooting throw the wall pushing you or the window non of them were bc of staff. What they did was right bc you can’t have the stuff you had.

 

[Al límite]

I don't think that's what happened, you took the time to get out your physgun and freeze the prop back up on the window, this wouldn't have happened if you guys were in the middle of a shootout

Could you please tell the truth ? I did not have prop acess to any props inside that base except the printers so Idk why you're blaming me.

 

[Skojen]

HockeyExpert30 had told you that those props were not allowed prior to when we dealt with the floating props, from what he told me in a private conversation that I had with him - that I remember. If I am mistaken, then I retract that.

You were reminded once by an SA, you still did it. We unfroze your props, you continued to build them again more than once. You then tested our patience, not valuing that staff decisions are final - [1.3] Do not take matters into your own hands. The staff is here for a reason. Their decisions are final. Do not disrespect or test their patience. Take it to the appropriate forum board if required.

At the time, I did not see that pausing the 'raid' was needed, since the police were not actively pushing in nor making an attempt to breach at that point; this is true as seen in the video, you were shooting at the the wall in the direction of Law Enforcement to get them to raid you, I believe. It's correct that the police were present there, but as Robertsoliver932 said:

we could not get up to you anyway

In most circumstances in raids, I do pause them. But since this was a quick fix and the police were not actively attempting to breach during that time, that was the reasoning behind it as the LEOs were not in sight. They were not willing to push forward just yet.

So, based on those circumstances, that was the reason - I would like to emphasise that throughout our time of fixing those props, no LEOs did attempt to run upstairs to breach the property. If they did, then we would had paused the raid.

The LEOs were stationery, waiting for you to come downstairs given that you were surrounded and had no escape.

You had enough time to pick up your props and to not use them for illegitimate prop defenses that goes against server rules & the law of physics.

In the video, the wall prop that was used for cover was a head glitch and was unfrozen by me. After you repositioned the prop, it was corrected with the precision tool so that it was in compliance with server rules to prevent head glitching.

There were two former experienced mentors there, you knew what you were doing. You were given enough chances by me and Thegamingshain, but then decided to instead test our patience and disrespect staff. In hindsight, this would had only been a 5 second fix if you didn't undermine our decision and broke the server rules again, repeatedly.

After our fix, the raid continued for 5-10 minutes, you were not affected by this other than the fact that you couldn't use the head glitching props for cover and the floating props on the window.

As I spectated the raid coming to its near end, I can confidently say that we made the raid more fair and did not cause you to lose, you were outnumbered in the final stages.

Kind Regards,
Skojenmeister.

 

[Thanewolfe]

Under review.

 

[Thanewolfe]

@hushpuppy555,

Thank you for your report, after reviewing the video provided and reading the responses from all parties I have decided to deny this staff report for the follows reasons:

Base building violations:

[2.5.2]: You must support your props accordingly and not go against the law of physics.

[2.5.7]: You may not build unfair defenses. Both parties (attacking and defending) need to be able to look each other into the eyes. Unfair defenses include defenses where the attacking party is unable to shoot the defending party without crouching, but the defending party being able to shoot them right away.

General rule violations:

1. This community has respect as a core value; therefore we ask that you treat everybody with respect and give them a chance to experience the community. Treat those the way you would want to be treated. (OOC comments and breaking character with IC comments.)
2. Do not take matters into your own hands. The staff is here for a reason. Their decisions are final. Do not disrespect or test their patience. Take it to the appropriate forum board if required. (Putting the props back after they were unfrozen.)
3. Slander will not be tolerated within this community; the only place where accusations can be made against other members of the community is within the report forums and when speaking to an appropriate member of staff. When making an accusation against a member of staff, a higher ranking staff member should be spoken to - that is, if you don't want to submit a staff report in the appropriate forum. (Again, OOC comments.)

I would like to note: This ruling is based on the actions of ALL parties involved, not one particular person. This disrespectful behavior will not be tolerated, if this continues I will have no choice but escalate punishment and consider removing those involved from the community.

Staff report denied.