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[Deleted member 12627]

Your Steam Name: HuskyD0G
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:121982224
Your Character Name (If Applicable): Simon Mikael

Admin being reported( Tag by writing @ before their forum name) @StewartJames

Reason for Report: Fail RP
Time of Occurrence: 11:45 AM EST
Evidence to support your claim:
The video speaks for itself. I also would like to say I didn't talk at all during this video because I was eating. I pushed my mic thinking of talking but I never did.

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I'd get a PD blacklist for that ^
Additional members involved/witnessing:
Read, understood and followed staff report rules?: Yes

 

[StewartJames]

Hi. Surprised you didn't opt to make an in game report.

A) It is against the rules to steal a staff vehicle

B) I just had you run out of the metro in which there were two dead bodies. I come up to see you attempting to steal my car and run away. Policy and rules grants me the right to shoot if you are fleeing from an armed felony which I could assume you were.

C) I gave you an extensive amount of time to hop out, as well as directly clear instructions as to what would happen if you did not. You chose not to value your life (although not in contradiction to the rules) and remain in place.

I put it to you - did you kill all those people in casino, rendering the shots valid, or did you simply opt to cop bait and break rules about stealing staff cars for fun?

Either way, if you were not the man who shot those people then I am happy to be liable for my actions as our punishment policy states for pd now that it is the state of affairs that determines punishment, not whether the officer had reasonable cause. IF you were not the individual who shot everyone, then I apologise as that is a new system that is present only in this server and is taking me some getting used to.

I would however invite to to consider your decision making as you opt to steal a staff spawned cop car at the scene of a mass murder with suspects still at large, before disconnecting afterwards and promptly hopping on forums to make a report. Questions might be raised about the intent behind that, as well as the fact you clearly didn't have much intent to roleplay here.

Thanks, and if you were not the shooter then apologies on my part, according to our new policy I would be in the wrong.

 

[Deleted member 12627]

Thanks, and if you were not the shooter then apologies on my part, according to our new policy I would be in the wrong.

Then why did the pine county walk right past me, because I wasn't ID'd at all for being apart of anything. Just an excuse to shoot me, also you didn't even attempt to force me out even though the alarm just begun.

 

[StewartJames]

Then why did the pine county walk right past me, because I wasn't ID'd at all for being apart of anything. Just an excuse to shoot me, also you didn't even attempt to force me out even though the alarm just begun.

That isn't a sentence that makes sense in English, nor does it attempt to answer my question, so I shan't answer this thread until it is reviewed for the sake of my health.

 

[Deleted member 12627]

This is all I have to say in the matter

1. Law Enforcement may only use deadly force when the situation requires the protection of themselves or others. For example, if a person is threatening your life, you may use your weapon in self-defense.

1. Law Enforcement can not use lethal force when in pursuit of a fleeing suspect unless your own or civilian lives are in imminent danger or all other attempts to stop the suspect had failed. You must be able to justify your actions if asked by a member of staff.

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[StewartJames]

This is all I have to say in the matter

After talking with Simon we've ascertained he was not in fact the individual who shot everyone below metro and therefore according to new policy I do indeed deserve a heavy slapping in the face.

 

[Deleted member 12627]

After talking with Simon we've ascertained he was not in fact the individual who shot everyone below metro and therefore according to new policy I do indeed deserve a heavy slapping in the face.

I don’t want you in trouble bro, just stop shooting me when I steal cars lol. This isn’t the first time. I honestly don’t blame you for this because it’s become a normal at this point because there are so many false code reds it’s hard to contain it. I think staff as a whole needs to go back to heavy enforcement of non-lethal handling of vehicle pursuits/thefts.

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Also I lied this is my final reply

 

[StewartJames]

I don’t want you in trouble bro, just stop shooting me when I steal cars lol. This isn’t the first time. I honestly don’t blame you for this because it’s become a normal at this point because there are so many false code reds it’s hard to contain it. I think staff as a whole needs to go back to heavy enforcement of non-lethal handling of vehicle pursuits/thefts.

Also I lied this is my final reply

Exactly yeah - I started a thread asking for suggestions as a result of this because I noticed that if I as a police officer follow both rules and policy, it feels nice but doesn't catch any criminals and usually ends up killing me. There seems to be something wrong with the efficacy/rules/roleplay balance for cops right now but idk how to fix it lol.

 

[Deleted member 12627]

Exactly yeah - I started a thread asking for suggestions as a result of this because I noticed that if I as a police officer follow both rules and policy, it feels nice but doesn't catch any criminals and usually ends up killing me. There seems to be something wrong with the efficacy/rules/roleplay balance for cops right now but idk how to fix it lol.

I thought there already was a good way to do this? I remember when the rule was changed knight was still around and I asked him if they break fear RP with 2 guns at their driver side they can be code red since they broke fear rp. It’s an in character response to a rule break and works quite well since even if the person makes a report for false code red I mean they can be just as accountable for breaking fear rp.

 

[StewartJames]

I thought there already was a good way to do this? I remember when the rule was changed knight was still around and I asked him if they break fear RP with 2 guns at their driver side they can be code red since they broke fear rp. It’s an in character response to a rule break and works quite well since even if the person makes a report for false code red I mean they can be just as accountable for breaking fear rp.

Yeah lol for the most part my brain still thinks its one cop for fearrp which probably didn't help here.

You have to move earth and mountains still to bring another cop somewhere fast.

 

[Thanewolfe]

Under review.

 

[Thanewolfe]

@Simon Mikael,

Thank you for your report, seeing as you and @StewartJames were able to come to some sort of understanding of the situation and clear up any confusion regarding the RP actions, I will only speak on behalf of the administrative actions of said staff member. In regards to any misuse of administrative powers, I can come to the conclusion that there was no misuse of staff powers by Stewart in this situation. However, we hold our Staff members to a higher standard with regards to their Roleplay efforts and as such I can determine that Stewart overstepped his bounds as Law Enforcement in this scenario. As I'm sure you are aware, Stewart fully understands and accepts his mistake in this situation.

To conclude, Stewart will have to be more careful in the future about his in-game RP actions with regards to lethal force and FearRP. While he may have believed you were someone matching a description of a "code red" suspect, it does not fully justify lethal force. As far as the staff vehicle was concerned, the appropriate response would have been staff intervention, which would involved Stewart requesting another staff member to handle.

No further actions required at this time.

Regards,
Thanewolfe.