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Admin being reported: @misterlol29
Reason for Report:
I made a report believing I had been entrapped/baited into selling an undercover officer a weapon as I advertised that I was selling airsoft G36C and a detective contacted me arranging a meet at the bank and asked to purchase a G36C. I am reporting misterlol because I believe his decision was wrong and I wish to establish a precedent regarding entrapment that can be referred to in future regarding entrapment on the server.
Now the rules state that: "Detectives may not bait people into committing crimes. The civilians need to suggest these to you instead before you may take action."
I have come up with an argument to prove that under normal circumstances this would be considered entrapment but because of the involvement of ads and mono phones, it wasn't.
Scenario A: An undercover officer approaches civilians asking to purchase weapons until he eventually finds a willing seller in which he swiftly arrests for selling firearms. "Under current server rules, this would be considered entrapment as the detective *approached* the civilian first and asked to purchase a weapon in which he baited the committing of crime rather than providing an opportunity for the committing of a crime.
Scenario B: An undercover officer hangs around the bank and is *approached* by a civilian offering to sell firearms in which the detective accepts the proposal and arrests the civilian for selling illegal firearms. *Not entrapment*
The difference between the two scenarios is in one the detective provided an opportunity for a crime to be committed in being approached. rather than baiting a crime into being committed in approaching. therefore the same logic should be applied to the further two scenarios C and D
Scenario C: A civilian advertises the sale of *Plastic* Firearms and a detective *approaches* the civilian through the mono phone asking to buy firearms arranging a meeting with the civilian promptly arresting him for selling illegal firearms in which the detective baited the civilian into selling him by approaching him first.
Scenario D: A detective advertises that they are looking to purchase firearms and are approached on the monophone by a civilian offering to sell them firearms in which the detective promptly arranges a meet and arrests them. * The detective created an opportunity for crime but didn't directly bait the crime as they were approached first.
My argument here is whoever approaches each other first either the detective or dealer has initiated that dealing. So if a detective approaches someone first they have baited the dealer into baiting. And if the dealer approaches the detective first then the dealer has initiated the dealing themselves.
In my case, it was Scenario C where I advertised the sale of plastic firearms in which the detective baited me into selling them real firearms in approaching me first through the monophone and organising a meet at the bank. The detective involved was: STEAM_0:0:31514422.
Time of Occurrence: 3pm GMT
Evidence to support your claim:
Additional members involved/witnessing: STEAM_0:0:31514422, BlackFlare
Read, understood and followed staff report rules?: Yes
Your Steam ID:
Your Character Name (If Applicable):
Admin being reported: @misterlol29
Reason for Report:
I made a report believing I had been entrapped/baited into selling an undercover officer a weapon as I advertised that I was selling airsoft G36C and a detective contacted me arranging a meet at the bank and asked to purchase a G36C. I am reporting misterlol because I believe his decision was wrong and I wish to establish a precedent regarding entrapment that can be referred to in future regarding entrapment on the server.
Now the rules state that: "Detectives may not bait people into committing crimes. The civilians need to suggest these to you instead before you may take action."
I have come up with an argument to prove that under normal circumstances this would be considered entrapment but because of the involvement of ads and mono phones, it wasn't.
Scenario A: An undercover officer approaches civilians asking to purchase weapons until he eventually finds a willing seller in which he swiftly arrests for selling firearms. "Under current server rules, this would be considered entrapment as the detective *approached* the civilian first and asked to purchase a weapon in which he baited the committing of crime rather than providing an opportunity for the committing of a crime.
Scenario B: An undercover officer hangs around the bank and is *approached* by a civilian offering to sell firearms in which the detective accepts the proposal and arrests the civilian for selling illegal firearms. *Not entrapment*
The difference between the two scenarios is in one the detective provided an opportunity for a crime to be committed in being approached. rather than baiting a crime into being committed in approaching. therefore the same logic should be applied to the further two scenarios C and D
Scenario C: A civilian advertises the sale of *Plastic* Firearms and a detective *approaches* the civilian through the mono phone asking to buy firearms arranging a meeting with the civilian promptly arresting him for selling illegal firearms in which the detective baited the civilian into selling him by approaching him first.
Scenario D: A detective advertises that they are looking to purchase firearms and are approached on the monophone by a civilian offering to sell them firearms in which the detective promptly arranges a meet and arrests them. * The detective created an opportunity for crime but didn't directly bait the crime as they were approached first.
My argument here is whoever approaches each other first either the detective or dealer has initiated that dealing. So if a detective approaches someone first they have baited the dealer into baiting. And if the dealer approaches the detective first then the dealer has initiated the dealing themselves.
In my case, it was Scenario C where I advertised the sale of plastic firearms in which the detective baited me into selling them real firearms in approaching me first through the monophone and organising a meet at the bank. The detective involved was: STEAM_0:0:31514422.
Time of Occurrence: 3pm GMT
Evidence to support your claim:
Additional members involved/witnessing: STEAM_0:0:31514422, BlackFlare
Read, understood and followed staff report rules?: Yes
