Staff Report on Nick

[Beeza]

Your Steam Name: Beeza
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:106662043
Your Character Name (If Applicable): Sam Wong


Admin being reported: (Tag by writing @ before their forum name) @Nick


Reason for Report: black mailing me in the sit and saying he was going to mute me just because I was talking over him even though he reported me and @ELIASS was taking the sit. Also saying that you need to initiate even though I've been told by @Dirty Harry and many other staff members that you only need reasons, you don't need to initiate. He says that we're all going to get banned but my internet crashes and he messages me on discord. He says we have get verbal warnings about initation but he said in the video he wanted either all of us banned or the person that shot first.
Also in my second video, my audio for some reason never worked but nick was just defending him as I made a report on him because he had god aim with the P99 but I guess he's just "the better player"
Can I just point out that his friend Tommy that I thought was really suspicious started messaging me on discord and said

Don't know why but I just feel they're both friends as they both came to the fishing docks, he's always with him and stuck up for him in the second video.

Time of Occurrence:
Evidence to support your claim:

By the way I don't block him he blocks me after I say that.

Additional members involved/witnessing: @ELIASS @papa1456

 

[Gurra]

@Nick , Where in rules does it say anything about this type of initiation being required?

 

[Aaron]

Since @Dirty Harry directly advised Nick to take action on this, technically this report does not fall on @Nick. This is not a comment on the validity of the report, but simply a redirection of responsibility since Nick was advised by Thy to take a specific action.

 

[Beeza]

Since @Dirty Harry directly advised Nick to take action on this, technically this report does not fall on @Nick. This is not a comment on the validity of the report, but simply a redirection of responsibility since Nick was advised by Thy to take a specific action.

He still threatened or blackmailed me and how did Thy advise Nick to take a specific action?

 

[Nick]

Just so we're clear, Blackmailing by definition is using information on someone to gain leverage over another person so blackmailing here false, and me saying this is going to end badly for you if you keep disrespecting and talking over people talking IE staff members is not me threatening you thats a promise as that's not tolerated, whether you like it or not you were there for a reason and you aren't there to tell staff what the rules are there to tell the staff what happened on your side of the story and listen to the staff and see what rules you've possibly broken. This is nothing more then you failing to engage another player in roleplay and you being upset about us verbally warning you to make sure you're engaged in roleplay with the other player in a proper manner, you said thy told you that you weren't required to which is false I spoke with him and he said that you aren't required provided you have an appropriate reason such as you were mugged and were let go without death or were threatened. If people were allowed to go killing unsuspecting people over what they thought was a reasonable reason to shoot we'd have mahem on the streets you having illegal firearms inst a reason to blind side the cops that were going someone to talk about a small infraction such as farming on public property.

Side note: I was told half way through the sit that I had a megaphone equipped making me 2x as loud as I actually was.

 

[Gurra]

Well, my only input here is - initiation is not required if there is a reason for whatever action is taken. So maybe @Sam Wong can explain what his reason was and then @Nick can explain why it wasn't a sufficient reason enough.

 

[Beeza]

So pretty much Nick and his friend that was with him came and said he was going to take us off the docks and give us tickets if we never stopped farming by the time we got back and so then we RPed saying it was our docks and as he left he said it was HIS docks for some reason and so I and a few others who I was with made 911 calls and said that we aint leaving and they can't force us to leave or stop farming on the docks and then the detective and a cadet came in a black ford raptor as you will see in the video, we then say to the detective to stop and a friend of mine decides to shoot him because he never stopped and then you see the chief pull up with his lights on and starts running down to the fishing docks, I do not see what happens after that but Tom on the radio was saying he needed help and it said in the logs that Tom shot them first. But Nick said that we never iniated with them even though we already had shot and killed a Detective that ran up on us and so we see the chief with lights pull up so we just think to shoot as we have illegal weapons, we argued with him that we were not leaving the fishing docks and could not force us to and we killed the detective.
Also can I just point out that the megaphone does not make your voice louder it just makes your voice distance further and I know this because I've always had one so @Nick don't lie you were getting aggressive in the sit swearing etc and @ELIASS even says to calm down. But I mean this is about nick saying that he was going to get either all of us banned or atleast the first person who shot getting banned or atleast warned. Can I just also say that nicks excuse as to why he had his police lights on is because he was pulling over and his police lights tell people to go left or whatever but that's not our fault think of it from the person who shot first, we kill a detective and you said before that you were going to arrest or ticket us if we were still farming there and so we were so that's the reason as to why he shot you first. I don't think there needs to be any kind of initiation if you have your lights on and we just killed a detective and you pull up. I think your lights being on after we just done something is good enough for Tom to shoot at you as he doesn't know what you're pulling up for, none of us know what you're pulling up for with police lights on we're not gods you pulled up to simply arrest or ticket us and how do we know you never saw us kill the detective by the boat or see any of us with illegal weapons? ​

 

[Nick]

First off we had no idea a detective was there nor did we hear any gun shots we were there for farming and you and your guys were hiding behind the boat and truck and we started walking down to docks to have a word with the gentlemen farming on it still and we're open fired at which isn't proper initiation as we weren't there with sirens we just turned on lights as I always do if I leave my vehicle for an occurrence such as tickets for illegally parked cars. we never looked at the boat or where your friend was hiding behind the truck cause neither me or the officer with me knew you were there. IE you cant just shoot at people with the thought that you might get caught or talked to by the police or it would be murder central downtown when a car gets pulled over for a ticket or gets talked to about anything. so that point is invalid.

and note what i said in my other post - Megaphone equipped making me sound 2x louder then what I actually was. (Max Delcia told me)
swearing saying stuff like "come on that would be fucking retarded" isn't a reason to get up and arms thats me making a common sense claim to the situation which you didn't use when we arrived.

Also I didn't say all of you were getting banned, as I said in the video don't put words in my mouth.
also common sense again if we would of seen you and all your boys with weapons you really think a officer with a pistol and a guy with 1 AR would challenge all of you at once in the open without backup or taking cover that's purely dense thinking.

To wit, I will let management take it from here as I have nothing further to say.

 

[Beeza]

2:50 he says i need to stop putting words in his mouth before it ends bad for me
4:00 he starts getting aggressive just because i was talking over him saying he was going to mute me even though it wasn't his sit Eliass was controlling the sit as he's the one who reported me, i was just trying to get my point out.
And since when is talking over a admin that is reporting me and aint even in control of the sit, disrespect
I did not disrespect him at all, he swore and got aggressive in the sit and i never swore once or get aggressive in the sit.
Also 4:20 he claims i gave false information even though everything i said was not a lie.
So him saying i put words in his mouth ends bad for me, getting aggressive even though it isn't even his sit and he's the one reporting us, saying i disrespected him and saying i gave false information but where in the videos did i do that?
Also can i just say at 4:30 i explain to why I sometimes talk over him and it isn't my fault and you will even see from my side untill 4:50 it aint my fault.

 

[Gurra]

Gonna let our almighty @Dirty Harry conclude this one.

 

[Thy]

Lovely, I’ll have a look once I’m home again.

 

[Thy]

@Sam Wong @Nick I’d like to talk to both of you in discord today if possible and we’ll sort this out.

 

[Thy]

Discussed it in discord, it has been resolved.