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Your Steam Name: Valdrec
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:42437591
Your Character Name (If Applicable): Jimmy Longfellow


Admin being reported: @zeffa


Reason for Report: I did not feel that zeffa was interested in handling my report at all.
A character by the name of Madone Chang begins to taunt me though the one-way window of my recently acquired apartment, stating that he can see me and what I am doing. I find this strange, as there's no legitimate way he would be able to see. Eventually he leaves, and I assume I am safe.
Then, a couple of minutes later, I fall to the ground, no sound effect of damage besides "oof". I immediately make a report, but there is no response. (According to zeffa during the sit, there is no reason listed why I died. I was stationary at the time, nothing in the apartment was moving.)
When the K/O timer has ran out, I move back to my apartment, as it was a glitch that killed me, my understanding is that it is my objective to return to the location before resuming regular roleplay.
Madone Chang and Joe Hancock, block my entry to my apartment, telling me that I am being mugged. I try to explain that I have no business as a character standing here, as I am awaiting a report on my mysterious death, but they are eager to shoot me instead. I attempt to run for cover in spawn, in the hopes that my report is picked up, and this obvious attempt to take advantage of my glitched death (assuming they didn't cause it.).
I am shot, and almost instantly after, my report is picked up.
I try to explain the situation to zeffa, but the two offending muggers repeatedly speak over me. I ask if we can move the sit, but zeffa refuses, instead handing out warning points to new players in the area (We are actually in the spawn area at this point.)
I try to explain that it's very suspicious the way that I died, immediately followed by two people, one of whom already boasted of seeing through my windows, (and did again in the sit, but that was not followed up either.) are blocking my entry, but zeffa is already wrapping up, saying that there is nothing he will do. The muggers boast that they also raided my apartment (taking LSD equipment and my furnace table.) I am surprised to learn this, especially as it would further incriminate them, putting them at the scene of my mysterious death an instant afterwards, breaking into the apartment and taking everything.
zeffa makes a point of saying he will not investigate further and closes the report, teleporting away without another word.

I soon after, pm zeffa as a courtesy, to let them know I will be reporting, as seen here (8:20am GMT):
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This brief conversation reflects in some way, the conversation in the sit also.

I appreciate that staff work is a hard job, and that he may have been tired/had a hard day, but in this instance, what very well might have been cheating, or at the very least, bug exploitation, was ignored. I doubt very much that this is connected to our opposing gang affiliations, but I struggle to find any reasons that might have prompted this.

I hate to be the guy always reporting staff all the time (okay so maybe the forum one was a bit excessive).

Time of Occurrence: 08:05am GMT
Evidence to support your claim: this picture is the best I can do. It was a verbal situation, zeffa had all the access to the information about how I died, and it's not abuse, but rather, negligence.
Additional members involved/witnessing: Playernames Madone Chang and Joe Hancock were in the sit, but for obvious reasons I doubt they would be impartial witnesses, as they are being implicated in potential bug exploitation.
Playername Mert Rises was warned for entering a sit in spawn (English is not his first language, he was asking for help.)

Location of my death, and the sit where he was warned:
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They raided you after they killed you, You also admitted to breaking character to say you died to a glitch while they role played it out, i had 0 attitude in the sit. WIthout any proof its really quiet hard to determine anything
 

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The sit started instantly after I was shot, and they were still present, which means they raided it directly after the first time I died.
 

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they were not present when revived, It couldnt be right after you did because i grabbed report after you said you were shot. I checked time stamp it was 2 minutes after, Plenty of time to raid
 

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I was a few seconds into the K/O timer when you revived me. They were standing right there.

Or to quote you "do you have any evidence?" - but can I just say while I understand that you need evidence to prosecute, that doesn't mean you should avoid investigating entirely - after all, investigation is the process in which we uncover evidence.
 

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Ok im not going to argue back and fourth, ill jsut let a cm deal with this @Stuvi
 

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i did investigate and i told you that i saw nothing wrong they came after your death they didnt know about your death.
 

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As I already stated, one of them had just boasted to be able to see through my window moments before my death, and based on their location when the sit started, that would mean they would have to had acted on my death in order to raid.
Those are two factors pointing in favour of them knowing about my death, and both points I wish we would have explored in detail during the sit.
 

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Yes and we did there is no proof he could actually see through your window, i believe it was all in fun roleplay as i stated
 

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During the sit he actually even tried to show you how he saw through the window, but you did not want to know. I asked if we could move the sit more than once, and this was one of those times.
There was no mention of this "fun roleplay" you're now stating.
 

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He was making jokes about seeing through the window as he stated im done arguing over this
 

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I'm just trying to make the point clear here that you may have misunderstood key factors in the sit because you did not follow them through. Maybe you interpreted him as saying that, but witnesses that I have listed on my report will confirm that he stepped away from the sit area to specifically show you how he looked through the window, and you neither moved nor responded to this.

My intention is not to argue, but to get to the crux of the matter, and to highlight where there may be misunderstandings, so we may all better understand the situation at hand.
 

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Unless you have any evidence to support your claims this will be denied. Stop making up assumptions. You deny the possibility that they targetted you because they knew somebody lived there - you just go straight to the point of them being rulebreakers and raiding you when you died. How are they supposed to know you died anyway?

I would like to point out that you have broken NLR here. You may not return to your point of death for 10 minutes or for the duration of an active situation. Deaths due to bugs and glitches need to be reported and approved of staff members before you may return.
 

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I saw nothing wrong with the way they raided you, as stuvi said noone approved of you going back to the base. They were raiding regardless of what happened to u
 

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The point I'm trying to get to, is they might not have been assumptions if we'd carried out the sit properly. Although it is relevant, I am not trying to debate the outcome of the sit, just the mentality of it. Potential evidence at the time was deliberately overlooked.

So yes, I have a lack of supporting items because of that very reason.

This is why I am making the report.
 

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The sit lasted 15 minutes sir, By the end i went over everything and looked at the window which i saw nothing. We were all just talking about random things till Chris and Barry showed up and we all went our separate ways
 

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Actually, my witnesses will agree, you did not move from your location except to threaten warning points to a newbie. When you ended the sit prematurely, you teleported away. The sit lasted about five minutes.

Again, please speak to my witnesses, particularly the new player.
 

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Dood , how would we know that you die from a mysterious death and i was kidding that i can see through the window and shit because i saw you going in to that apartment that's why i say i can see you. It ain't Zeffa fault.
 
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But you did run to show zeffa the window thing, and he didn't follow, correct?
 

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But you did run to show zeffa the window thing, and he didn't follow, correct?

I SHOWED YOU not zeffa , you did not follow , do u actually think that i can see through that window?
 
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