Staff Report

[Memo]

Your Steam Name: mem
Your Steam ID: STEAM_1:0:210922618
Your Character Name (If Applicable): Sandra Santos

Admin being reported( Tag by writing @ before their forum name) @Hop

Reason for Report: Mishandling situation, Failure to view providing evidence and Lazyness in general.
Time of Occurrence: 12 AM
Evidence to support your claim: https://streamable.com/x9g5i0 https://gyazo.com/b8e3a66f0ab940402f8baf513fe3f371 https://i.gyazo.com/1419154e0414482435d51fea96646147.png https://i.gyazo.com/b8e3a66f0ab940402f8baf513fe3f371.png https://i.gyazo.com/76e2014a60756ecb036684ddf78c1db5.png
This so called evidence was completely false, this footage was 20-30 minutes prior to when Joe snow was wanted. As you can see from the "evidence" provided, Joe snow didn't appear to be wanted on the officer's POV. To add even more, you can check chat time stamps to where Joe Snow said he was going to layer 2 when he was fleeing from the police force. When we tried to explain our situation to Hop, he didn't take a minute of his time to hear us out and just continue the raid after he had paused it in the beginning. Hop also teleported to Joe Snow ( He wasn't even near our property ) and still continued to go along with the raid. Hop poorly mishandled this whole ordeal. The cops were in an on-going chase with Joe. Joe snow was wanted regarding, his cop chase if Hop actually took the time he would have checked the license plates on both of the hurricans and would have too informed the police that the plates don't add up.

To add some context, we were doing our thing on evo lane 2 when Officer Viny Luco decides to harass us and knocking at our doors. That is when Joe Snow answers the door to deal with the officer disturbing us. Long story short, Officer Viny Luco leaves and later in the day Joe Snow is wanted by the Police Force for fleeing. During that instance, the police lose him and return to our home with "Probable cause to raid us"


Additional members involved/witnessing: @BoKe @misterjokeman @sparrow
Read, understood and followed staff report rules?: Yes

 

[hop1003]

I had given you guys a chance to make a full-on report seen here https://prnt.sc/tksdcf. As before when we tried figuring things out by pausing it seen here, https://prnt.sc/tksd7l. You guys had placed down defenses and had a friend run in which @Colonel Cookie forced out. I had tried to get a reason for the raid but you and your friends decided to not follow the paused announcement and build defenses leading to me let it go on as that would be unfair to the police.
I never said it was good and even gave you guys the chance to make a report but your actions in all lead me to let it go on.
I was also advised by @Colonel Cookie to let it go on.
I can explain more certain points or provided more evidence with logs of the defenses being placed down

-hop​

 

[BoKe]

From my personal view on things is that this situation should of never have happen, if @Hop actually look into the situation and check the plates we would of never been raided. I'm very mad because i was having fun rping with my friends and then these cops come out of nowhere and started trying to raid us so then i called staff hopefully to fix the situation, but then realizing that this staff member just wanted us raided and is trying to find a excuse to raid us. You literally just said stated above me "i have tried to get a reason for the raid" which you are saying you wanted us to get raided? This officer obviously lied to the staff by making a false video which @Hop fell for and didn't even check the logs.

 

[Memo]

I had given you guys a chance to make a full-on report seen here https://prnt.sc/tksdcf. As before when we tried figuring things out by pausing it seen here, https://prnt.sc/tksd7l. You guys had placed down defenses and had a friend run in which @Colonel Cookie forced out. I had tried to get a reason for the raid but you and your friends decided to not follow the paused announcement and build defenses leading to me let it go on as that would be unfair to the police.
I never said it was good and even gave you guys the chance to make a report but your actions in all lead me to let it go on.
I was also advised by @Colonel Cookie to let it go on.
I can explain more certain points or provided more evidence with logs of the defenses being placed down

-hop​

We were preparing for the raid that should have never started and that you allowed to continue after about 2 minutes after you trying to "figure out" we knew that you were just gonna allow it. The fact that we were placing defenses should not have authorized the raid to continue it was a false raid in the first place. The fact that it would be unfair to the police makes no sense it still wouldn't matter the raid was false in the first place. It's not about the items here, Hop it's the fact that you didn't take the time to view the situation thoroughly.
-memo

 

[hop1003]

From my personal view on things is that this situation should of never have happen, if @Hop actually look into the situation and check the plates we would of never been raided. I'm very mad because i was having fun rping with my friends and then these cops come out of nowhere and started trying to raid us so then i called staff hopefully to fix the situation, but then realizing that this staff member just wanted us raided and is trying to find a excuse to raid us. You literally just said stated above me "i have tried to get a reason for the raid" which you are saying you wanted us to get raided? This officer obviously lied to the staff by making a false video which @Hop fell for and didn't even check the logs.

I attempting to figure out the reason for the raid and I never had an intention to get you guys raided? I tried to get the reason you guys forced me to let the raid go on to prevent any more unfair advantages. And I offered to allow you guys to make another report. I'm sorry if my wording was not pleasurable to you.

 

[Memo]

I attempting to figure out the reason for the raid and I never had an intention to get you guys raided? I tried to get the reason you guys forced me to let the raid go on to prevent any more unfair advantages. And I offered to allow you guys to make another report. I'm sorry if my wording was not pleasurable to you.

Forced to do what? You could have asked to delete the props, I only spawned in 3 props to give the "advantage" it's an entire PD against 3 people.

 

[hop1003]

Forced to do what? You could have asked to delete the props, I only spawned in 3 props to give the "advantage" it's an entire PD against 3 people.

This is my final response. You had put down props and had a guy come in which didn't let me focus on the raid itself and it due to you guys assuming that I was gonna go with the police you didn't make a report when I told you could. Colonel told me to continue the raid so I did. I never said the raid was valid and I tried to offer you guys to make a report so I could get the full story and not just PM's. Now for the raid itself, False arrest are not against rules random arrests are and drawing from that the crime is still harboring a fugitive as you guys could have come out and handled it in RP. I also have a staff witness say that cops were chasing a car of the same make and go into the house. I had just learned of this while talking to said staff. And If I were to figure out what props were just put down that would take away from the time I have to deal with police and the evidence. Reasons, why I let the raid go on: Being told by another staff member to, Invalid props and people were affecting the raid, and Being able to handle it later with my permission. To address any bias you think I have I am not in any org I didn't know anyone on the police force there as friends. I was a single staff member trying to figure out why the raid happened with the "entire PD". And if you think I though they don't have any reason refer to line 3. To address the props those are still props that shouldn't have been spawned in and provide an unfair advantage no matter if its one person or ten. Your assumptions don't let you break the rules and place props down. I wanted to bring you guys to a sit to see if you guys had something to add but you guys refused. I had tried to deal with the situation thoroughly afterward but you guys didn't want to.

 

[Memo]

This is my final response. You had put down props and had a guy come in which didn't let me focus on the raid itself and it due to you guys assuming that I was gonna go with the police you didn't make a report when I told you could. Colonel told me to continue the raid so I did. I never said the raid was valid and I tried to offer you guys to make a report so I could get the full story and not just PM's. Now for the raid itself, False arrest are not against rules random arrests are and drawing from that the crime is still harboring a fugitive as you guys could have come out and handled it in RP. I also have a staff witness say that cops were chasing a car of the same make and go into the house. I had just learned of this while talking to said staff. And If I were to figure out what props were just put down that would take away from the time I have to deal with police and the evidence. Reasons, why I let the raid go on: Being told by another staff member to, Invalid props and people were affecting the raid, and Being able to handle it later with my permission. To address any bias you think I have I am not in any org I didn't know anyone on the police force there as friends. I was a single staff member trying to figure out why the raid happened with the "entire PD". And if you think I though they don't have any reason refer to line 3. To address the props those are still props that shouldn't have been spawned in and provide an unfair advantage no matter if its one person or ten. Your assumptions don't let you break the rules and place props down. I wanted to bring you guys to a sit to see if you guys had something to add but you guys refused. I had tried to deal with the situation thoroughly afterward but you guys didn't want to.

Before you even came one of the detectives shot out our camera's and at our property the cops did not want to handle it in RP they wanted to raid us they wanted FragRP. We could not come out and handle it with RP as the cops would immediately detain and search us when we had class 3’s and illegal substances, you're saying that the only chance we had was to give ourselves to the cops as well get a nice prison sentence for the stuff we had. I also never said you were biased in any way shape or form the report says you were lazy and didn't view the situation properly.

About the props I honestly still don't see how that would affect your decision making it just seems like you are trying to find an excuse.
I made the report on why we got falsely raided, I never refused your "new report" I was tabbed out making this Staff Report and got off. I also don't see where you were trying to "deal with the situation thoroughly" if you were to do that this report would not have been made. Instead, you took about 2-3 minutes to see the evidence you have and rush your decision making which affected my day and others that were in the base.

About my friend running in I understand that was a bad decision on his end but you quickly teleported him out and he didn't give an "unfair advantage".

 

[BoKe]

This is my final response. You had put down props and had a guy come in which didn't let me focus on the raid itself and it due to you guys assuming that I was gonna go with the police you didn't make a report when I told you could. Colonel told me to continue the raid so I did. I never said the raid was valid and I tried to offer you guys to make a report so I could get the full story and not just PM's. Now for the raid itself, False arrest are not against rules random arrests are and drawing from that the crime is still harboring a fugitive as you guys could have come out and handled it in RP. I also have a staff witness say that cops were chasing a car of the same make and go into the house. I had just learned of this while talking to said staff. And If I were to figure out what props were just put down that would take away from the time I have to deal with police and the evidence. Reasons, why I let the raid go on: Being told by another staff member to, Invalid props and people were affecting the raid, and Being able to handle it later with my permission. To address any bias you think I have I am not in any org I didn't know anyone on the police force there as friends. I was a single staff member trying to figure out why the raid happened with the "entire PD". And if you think I though they don't have any reason refer to line 3. To address the props those are still props that shouldn't have been spawned in and provide an unfair advantage no matter if its one person or ten. Your assumptions don't let you break the rules and place props down. I wanted to bring you guys to a sit to see if you guys had something to add but you guys refused. I had tried to deal with the situation thoroughly afterward but you guys didn't want to.

About the person who ran in how did he give a unfair advantage? He ran in during the pause on the raid then got quickly teleported out. Also we wanted to make a sit that’s why we reported it right away why would we refuse to take a sit and if that is true show us screen shots or video of saying that because we never said that. You are also not even bringing up that in the “evidence” how come joe snow didn’t have a wanted sign above his head it’s because that “evidence” was 20-30 mins before the cops were even after him, also that car was memo not joe snow.

 

[PMX]

Locked for review.

 

[Melody]

Under review

 

[Melody]

Hello,

Thank you for your report. After reviewing the evidence provided here, and speaking with @Hop, there is insufficient evidence to show misuse of his powers/failure to do his duties as a staff member.

From what I can gather, there was a report made about a false raid. There was a staff member monitoring the situation who saw a player run and hide in the base. This is relayed to your group, but your group says this is untrue. The raid is then paused for evidence. While Hop is investigating, asking around multiple people at the raid for evidence, PMs are rolling in to him about the situation. This is when you all start to build defenses and another person who was originally uninvolved enter the raid. You should not have done this as the raid was still paused, but it is resolved by Cookie removing the person from the raid.

Then, the evidence that was linked here by you is provided, that shows what is thought to be a wanted player in the base. It is not known at this time by Hop that this evidence is old, though he should look out in the future for the "wanted" tag. This is a simple enough mistake, and with the current information Hop has, he deems the raid valid and it continues.

Since the evidence turned out to be invalid, you are of course unhappy with this outcome. However, instead of using PM to deal with the situation, you should have made another report as stated and offered by Hop. You could have asked to see the evidence - I don't see anywhere in the screenshots provided that you did so. He specifically asks you to make another report and you choose not to. You can see how in those PMs it's very confusing to get a full story of what's going on, and based on the evidence he had been given you can see how he could determine it to be a valid raid.

Based on all of this, your account of the situation and his, he did his due diligence. As stated, Hop should have looked for the "wanted" label above Joe's head when accepting the evidence as valid, or checked for time stamps - unfortunately the time stamps are cropped out of the video provided to him. Hop had no ill intent when letting the raid continue, but truly believed that the evidence was valid and consulted with other staff members about the situation when making his determination. Acting on the information he was provided, but not realizing it was false evidence, was a small mistake any staff member could have made. This is not laziness on his part, and he did what he was meant to when handling your report. Again, if you had further issues when the raid was unpaused, you could have made another report, but chose not to.

Hop acted in good faith here, concluded.

-Melody