Staff Report

[Unknxwn Terrorist]

Steam Name: Unknxwn Terrorist
Steam ID: STEAM_1:0:73645533
Character Name: Fredo Santana

Admin being reported: @Nick

Reason for report: @Nick had banned me for a situation that had already been resolved in a previous sit with a different moderator. The verdict of the previous sit had been decided and I was told I did nothing illegal by @Nappy Hoe and I was let go without punishment. @Nappy Hoe advised me to avoid vdm to avenge a fallen/attacked ally, but says I technically didn't break any rules since the attacker had been firing at my friend @Madone and I reserve the right to avenge/assist him in any way that is seen as fit. In this situation, I was unarmed and the only way I could help my friend is to use the car. If I was armed in this situation, I would have got out of the car in order to fairly RP. So I wake up the next morning and to my surprise I am banned for "Intentional VDM" for 3 days by @Nick , who was not involved with the already resolved situation. I do not wish any punishment upon @Nick but if it is seen as fit, then proceed with your own judgment. All I ask is to have my ban appeal read and to have my punishment fairly reconsidered. Nothing more, nothing less. If I am in the wrong, please enlighten me on which rule(s) I have broken, and I will surely not break them again. I am not here to minge. I am here merely here to enjoy this server and roleplay as fairly as I can. I feel that I have been wrongfully punished. Thank you in advance.

Time of occurence: About a day ago

Evidence to support claim: I do not record my gameplay but I can provide key witnesses that will support my claim as valid.

Additional members involved/witnessing: @Nappy Hoe @Madone

 

[Nick]

I understand nappy is new so this oversight is fine, but you ran someone over that was not threatening your life on purpose, thats all the needs to be said, you were in the wrong and it was brought to light by me when it was seen. All the needs to be said.

 

[Unknxwn Terrorist]

I understand nappy is new so this oversight is fine, but you ran someone over that was not threatening your life on purpose, thats all the needs to be said, you were in the wrong and it was brought to light by me when it was seen. All the needs to be said.

I am in the wrong for avenging my friend that was being fired at? Which rule in the rules did i break?

 

[Nick]

VDM, you are not to use a vehicle as a weapon unless your life is in direct danger as it was not (you were not being shot at) it was intentional VDM.

This seems to be more of an appeal rather then a staff report...

1. Vehicle Deathmatch (VDM) is not allowed without proper reasoning. For example, you may use your vehicle as a weapon if your life is in immediate danger.

 

[Unknxwn Terrorist]

VDM, you are not to use a vehicle as a weapon unless your life is in direct danger as it was not (you were not being shot at) it was intentional VDM.

This seems to be more of an appeal rather then a staff report...

This is in fact a staff report due to the fact you had nothing to do with the already resolved situation. You had NOTHING to do with the situation. By the time you had interfered, the situation was already done with and all parties were fine until your friend told you and you acted on behalf of him, which shows you are biased to the other party.

So what you are saying to me is that if someone kills your friend, you cannot act upon it yourself? Whether he dies from my car or a weapon does it make a difference? He will still be dead either way. I just so happened to be unarmed in that moment, so am i wrong to use the only resource that I have at hand? My intention isn't to minge or to be a pest but my options were limited. I hope you can understand

 

[Nick]

@Stuvi @Dirty Harry @Lola Meid

 

[Madone]

The report was already dealt by @Happy Hoe. I believe he already did gave @Unknxwn Terrorist a verbal warning for that. Both parties were cool with it. But @Nick was right about the VDM part , that was not acceptable , but i believe @Unknxwn Terrorist did not intentionally VDM that guy because he killed me and he tried to saved me.

 

[Stuvi]

Certainly looks intentional to me when he says he ran him over because he killed someone else - which is not allowed as his life is not in immediate danger.

 

[Unknxwn Terrorist]

Certainly looks intentional to me when he says he ran him over because he killed someone else - which is not allowed as his life is not in immediate danger.

So you can't avenge/assist a friend if he is in danger under any circumstances? Not even with a gun? If this is true, I know so many people that get away with what I am being accused of

 

[Stuvi]

I didn't say that. I am talking about the VDM.

 

[Unknxwn Terrorist]

I didn't say that. I am talking about the VDM.

Well I had no other choice but to VDM him because I had no weapon on me. Do you expect me just to run/drive away and let my friend die and let his stuff get taken?

 

[IKia]

I was With Madone and Unknxwn Terroist In the sit, (And I saw what happened) Yes Nappy thought it was okay but eh, at the same time. He said dont always use a car in that situation, But let the sit go. And no one was warned. so I Really dont get why Your banning him when it was already dealt with.

 

[Stuvi]

Well I had no other choice but to VDM him because I had no weapon on me. Do you expect me just to run/drive away and let my friend die and let his stuff get taken?

According to our current rules, yes.

 

[IKia]

According to our current rules, yes.

This is really weird. Once before I was betrayed by some people. They dragged me into a mugging. When the Gun Holder walked away. I ran off. But his friends used his car to run me over. When I was never a threat Or Putting there lifes in danger. I decided to get an admin to confirm and He Thought it was okay to Run me over. But this was a while and might just be a misunderstanding on there end.

 

[Nappy Hoe]

i was taking to a senior admin about this after the situation happened. This is a text book situational event. But if im wrong in this i apologize.

 

[Unknxwn Terrorist]

i was taking to a senior admin about this after the situation happened. This is a text book situational event. But if im wrong in this i apologize.

It's all good. I just thought that 3 days is too long for something that is borderline legal/illegal. You can tell my intention is not too be a minge or break RP

 

[Nappy Hoe]

Yeah and thats why i gave both partys verbals because irl this situation would probably be fine. Someone was shooting at another person and you tried to save his life. you used a last minute resource to take down the immediate threat. It was Fight or Flight.

 

[Unknxwn Terrorist]

VDM, you are not to use a vehicle as a weapon unless your life is in direct danger as it was not (you were not being shot at) it was intentional VDM.

This seems to be more of an appeal rather then a staff report...

1. Vehicle Deathmatch (VDM) is not allowed without proper reasoning. For example, you may use your vehicle as a weapon if your life is in immediate danger.

Ok so if my life was in immediate danger such as being held at gunpoint, wouldn’t I be breaking Fear RP to run them over or to attempt to evade? And I’m pretty sure @Nick would be the first to ban me because of it due to his relationship with players on the server. An admin’s duty is to be an unbiased mediator for any disagreement. Not to side with their friends whenever it may benefit them or to seek vengeance for losing items.

What is the point of even having a staff report section if the reports are being determined by the people that are being accused and their biased peers? I know the goal of the server is to gain more people, but I feel that if you recruit admins such as @Nick which choose to punish unfairly on behalf of his peers, monolith will lose many loyal players including myself. A 3 day ban for doing something that is borderline legal/illegal is extreme and I hope you can understand that. Honestly I truly enjoy the server but if this type of stuff keeps happening in the future, I see no purpose of continuing. Let this report be an example to whom ever is reading this and let the ending result show how things work on this server.
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For more context of the situation: https://monolithservers.com/forums/threads/fredo-santana-ban-appeal.8446/

@Lola Meid @Stuvi @Dirty Harry @DevulTj @Nappy Hoe @Flixs

 

[Stuvi]

This is now under review.

 

[Thy]

Will be concluded today.