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Your Steam Name: angry italian man
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:146761609
Your Character Name (If Applicable): Paulie Pellegrino


Ban Length: 1 week
Admin who banned you: Whiteblood


Ban Reason: Racism
Time of Occurrence: Around 3:45 (CST) on 6/22/17
Relevant Evidence: I was walking around with a couple of my friends, Candi Pellegrino, and James Hichcock when a man we met earlier, Alex Johnson came past us while my friends and I were talking about how we witnessed "Bat Man" (James Hawke) get arrested for robbing the bank. I then proceeded to jest with him and ask him if he was being "Niggerphobic" to me (Also I would just like to point out that the word in question was brought to my attention today by a man role playing with the name Kayne West and using it in such a manor as for it to be humorous and ironic), and while I thought the display of such word to be quite humorous apparently he did found offence to such a word, but considering the fact that I wasn't using it to berate him nor intentionally trying to agitate him to the point of him hating me. I was quite baffled by the fact that he deemed my little form of playful jesting liable to him having an admin ban me. I would also like to mention how the admin in question didn't even let me protest to such a little and insignificant thing. Maybe if I was following the plaintiff around and berating him with racial slurs then I could possibly see a cause for said ban, but in my eyes I don't see my ban as the proper solution to the problem because if he actually had a problem with me saying what I said then he could have simply said for me to leave him alone, don't talk to me, or a myriad of other phrases, but none of that was said or done. He simply asked for me to be banned because he didn't like what I said to him, and I know it's pretty cliche for me to say this, but if he honestly didn't like me at all from the get go. Then he should have avoided talking to me like the plague. Why would he go through the trouble to be around someone of which he didn't like? And instead of getting an admin to take time out of his busy schedule to oversee this rather insignificant problem, why couldn't he just handle it himself first and then seek the admin if needed? Now I just want to tie off this appeal with the few witnesses that where there to witness me talking to Alex Johnson on hand, and to also close of with the fact that I don't personally even hate him, nor do I even care about the skin color of his character. I was just making the joke to make the joke. Anyways I appreciate anyone who takes the time to read this whole thing because maybe you could learn to jump the gun on someone if they say something of which you personally find distasteful or hateful because something you may find offensive doesn't necessarily mean that it's wrong. Because not only is someone's sense of morality/humor completely subjective, it depends on who and what they grew up around, and for better or worse that "sense" shouldn't judge the person's ability to do the right thing in the end.

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Witness 1:

Candi Pellegrino (STEAM_0:0:50431054)

Witness 2:

James Hitchcock (STEAM_0:1:113997689)
 

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@Larry Gibbons I would like to start a conversation with you, but it says that I am not allowed to start a conversation with you. So if you are stilled inclined to do otherwise then you can message me whenever you feel it's appropriate.
 

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The person who reported you took offense to the fact you asked him if he was "niggerphobic", so I'm going to leave the ban as is.
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The person who reported you took offense to the fact you asked him if he was "niggerphobic", so I'm going to leave the ban as is.
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@White Blood I am curious as to why you are so dismissive about my appeal? I mean what I said wasn't inherently racist ("showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another.") because I was not implying that his character's race was inferior to my own, nor what I was saying meant to be taken personally. And also correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't a person report someone for "Racism" after they have told said person to stop? I may have a different interpretation of rule 13 though.

"We do not tolerate racism on our servers, especially not out of character. Your in-game character may be racist to a certain extent - but there is a line - and once players feel uncomfortable you have definitely crossed this line. Be observant and considerate."

The rule on racism ig. clearly states that a certain degree of racism is allowed to an extent, and once said line has been crossed and the person/s who took offense make known that they were uncomfortable by said words, then action can be made against the player for "Racism". Also correct me if I am wrong @White Blood, but I think that you have something personal against me since not only did you give a "half-assed" attempt at a reply to my appeal, but my poll is also removed for a reason unbeknownst to me. I mean not like a poll could do any harm unless somehow the "executioner" was possibly in the wrong for being too quick on the guns. I also find it quite odd that my "executioner" is also the "judge" to my appeal. I mean in a court of law usually when a re-trial (Just like this current situation) is in place the judge isn't going to be the same person who's first dealt with the proceedings. Rather it would be another judge in-order to eliminate any form of bias they may or may not have. So I find it quite unprofessional that the poll that I put up is now gone, and how the same person who sentenced me the ban is going to be the final say on this matter. I would greatly appreciate another staff member/supervisor over see the appeal instead.
 

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That's not how we do things here. I am in charge of your (rightful) ban for offending someone, and like I said, your appeal has been DECLINED
 

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I was the one that removed your useless poll.
Ban appeal was declined by White Blood already.
 
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