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Your Steam Name: Alpha
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Your Character Name: Joe Snow

Which Staff blacklisted you: @Melody
What were you blacklisted from: Weapons

Blacklist Length: 1 week
Blacklist Reason: Countering a bank raid as a civilian/RDM
Unblacklist Reason: So I was just rolling around because I had nothing to do and I turn into the bank and park. I walk inside and there is police tape covering the metal detectors as well as @StewartJames in front of them with a mask on saying "SCP MTF". There was also a TV screen above the metal detectors with an SCP related video on it. I assume that this is some sort of Staff Event due to Stewart being a staff member, and it being generally out of the ordinary. Stewart then says, "do not go inside, there is a monster", therefore, I take out my machete in a joking manor and head through the censors to fight the so called monster. The monster was not in the main lobby and not in the building at all, instead it was a bank raid (which I was unaware of until I was actively being shot at by a few of the raiders). As we head down into the vault we see people, and they start shooting, I am not hit but the shots are being shot in our general direction, and in an action of self-defense I pull out my machete. As one of them comes past the spot I am hiding I hit them with my machete as they run I chase them and stab them, I make it up to the garage where Stewart is shooting a person (by this point I was fully inside the situation and any attempt to leave could end in my being shot, therefore I stay with the detective), as I go towards Stewart the shots are still being shot at us and I kill the person with my machete. I then loot his body of an M1911 and Stewart trades me, he gives me a P99 and some food and water. After the trade he says, "Thank you for assisting the police", instead of doing what Staff are supposed to do and tell me what I was doing was wrong. After him giving me the items I assume what I did was allowed due to the fact he was praising me for it. From the point of me entering the bank to being shot I had assumed it was some sort of event that was not being publicly advertised. One of the people I killed reports me and I am then brought to a roof with Melody, Rafael Viola and John Watterson. I believe this blacklist was unjust and unfair due to the fact I was mentally confused, up to the point of me self defending myself I believed this was an event. Therefore I do not believe I should have been blacklisted for a week for it. I have no other warning points for RDM or anything of this matter nor have I ever been blacklisted in the year or so I have been playing here.
Thank you for reading my point of the story and I hope it is taken into consideration when deciding a verdict for this blacklist appeal.

Time of Occurrence: 20:00 GMT 24/02/2020
Additional members involved/witnessing: @KRAFTRON @StewartJames @Zynthax
Read, understood and followed blacklist appeal rules?: Yes I read them before making this appeal.
 

Zynthax

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This punishment is kind of unfair for him, starting from the point that neither him or us knew what was going on:
1) It was everything a misunderstading, due to the fact that they were just joking, as soon as we saw them inside the vault we started shooting the detective and he got shot as well, he was just stabbing the people who shot him but in any of the cases this was his fault. None of you knew that we were robbing the bank until y'all came down and were received with pistol shots, so to be honest there's no point of punishing anybody since this is just a misunderstanding.
2) He stabbed us because we were shooting at the whole police force during the sneaky bank raid
3) He didn't know that there was a bank raid going on until we started shooting

This are my reasons to state that this punishment is unfair. I didn't want to get him in trouble in the first point, I just wanted to know what happen.
 

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As I was somewhat involved I'll clarify a few things.

The monster was an error that someone decided to name an scp. I'm always a fan of a bit of passive rp like that so added to it, all went well. Turns out it's 50/50 whether or not the error was visible to someone.

Trouble is I then in my capacity as a detective hear the vault open, and head down. Three people pop put and start shooting everything that moves, including Joe Snow here who was followed me down there, as he thought I was going to the “SCP”, which he couldn't see.

He then stabbed the people who chased the two of us into the garage, who would certainly have killed him. Only once he killed those two/three did a final person show up with a bank bag showing it up as A bank raid.

In light of this it's possible Joe Snow was unaware it was a bank raid, and was acting in self defense against people shooting him, who he had not initiated on/talked to.
I hope this helps clarify what happened, and also explain why I opted not to punish him - I made the supposition he was reactively self defending rather than actively countering a bank raid.

That's all the info I have to give and I am not passing judgement in any way, just thought I'd add to it since my name is mentioned a few times.

Cheerio.
 

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As I was somewhat involved I'll clarify a few things.

The monster was an error that someone decided to name an scp. I'm always a fan of a bit of passive rp like that so added to it, all went well. Turns out it's 50/50 whether or not the error was visible to someone.

Trouble is I then in my capacity as a detective hear the vault open, and head down. Three people pop put and start shooting everything that moves, including Joe Snow here who was followed me down there, as he thought I was going to the “SCP”, which he couldn't see.

He then stabbed the people who chased the two of us into the garage, who would certainly have killed him. Only once he killed those two/three did a final person show up with a bank bag showing it up as A bank raid.

In light of this it's possible Joe Snow was unaware it was a bank raid, and was acting in self defense against people shooting him, who he had not initiated on/talked to.
I hope this helps clarify what happened, and also explain why I opted not to punish him - I made the supposition he was reactively self defending rather than actively countering a bank raid.

That's all the info I have to give and I am not passing judgement in any way, just thought I'd add to it since my name is mentioned a few times.

Cheerio.
That makes things a few more clear man, and completely agree with you. He shouldn't have been punished.
 

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Hello Alpha,

Thank you for taking the time to make an appeal. Based on your side, as well as Stewart's side, your blacklist will be removed. Please keep in mind for the future, the excuse of "I thought it was an event" will not be accepted. You unintentionally counter raided a bank raid, that rule break is still on you, and in the future you will be faulted for it. I, however, do understand that it was confusing. Make sure it's actually an event next time.

Appeal accepted, locked and moved
 
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