False Blacklist

[Jack Everadon]

Your Steam Name: Cookie
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:118906358
Your Character Name: Jack Everadon

Which Admin blacklisted you: TheJD @John Valcone
What were you blacklisted from: Weapons

Blacklist Reason: I got blacklisted because I killed someone when harmed someone on my frequency. I found them at townhall and called @Kevin Brooks because he was the original one that was looking for them. When he got there, he got out of his car and immediately started shooting at their car. Me wanting to help Kevin because they harmed someone on our frequency, I got out of my car and by the time I got out one of them was still alive in his car. I told him to get out of the car and then killed him because he harmed someone on our frequency. I today asked in help. "Which rule states that you can not kill someone if they hurt a friend that is not in your org?" I got an answer from Gregg saying, "They should be in your party, or frequency, so staff can confirm this." and also "They are in your group constellation, so you may defend your friend." Is this is valid, then I should not have been given the blacklist.
Time of Occurrence: I believe 12/23/16
Relevant Evidence: https://plays.tv/video/5c2010c3704a43cc04/o7?from=user
Additional members involved/witnessing: @Kevin Brooks

 

[The JD]

This case was still rdm in the video kevin clearly tells you not to get involved.This case was still rdm and Kevin was given a verbal for rdm since as seen in the video no one initiated. Kevin would have gotten a worse punishment if he didn't comp the man who was killed. You have a long record with rdm. In the video you gun a man down and then proceed to execute both men. This is still a blatant case of Rdm and you also have kept PMing in game to remove it. I know you say you understand but you most defiantly still committed rdm.

 

[Jack Everadon]

They initiated on our friend by harming them, which means we don't have to initiate because they already did. Even though, they initiated first, I still told the one that was still alive that Kevin had not killed to get out of the car.

EDIT: Also, Kevin never verbally or physically said that he didn't want me to get involved. He only said to Thomas to not get involved. He never said anything to me during the whole situation.

 

[The JD]

He did about 6 minutes before. Then you guys track them down and killed him. You guys were also told this happened via your radio you didn't see it. Which I wonder how since he would have been dead. If he had a friend with him idk why they didn't kill him its a bit shady. You were just looking for a reason to kill them.

 

[Jack Everadon]

I never got told by Kevin at all to not help. We were not looking for a reason to kill them, we had a reason to kill them. They killed our friend and one of us saw it. It gives us valid reason to kill them.

 

[The JD]

At about 5 seconds in the video you ask to just hop out and kill them and kevin says no your not in our org. Which ik the freq thing counter matter of fact he did tell you no. With not seeing it and just hearing it over radio it is simply badRp. Why else would you go kill them they were no longer a threat to you; it looks like you just want to kill them for the fun.

 

[Jack Everadon]

At about 3 seconds in the video, Thomas asks if he can kill them, that was not me. We killed them because they killed one of our friends. What? Are we supposed to let people that just killed our friends go, when we're role-playing as criminals in a powerful organization? No.

 

[The JD]

ok I got you confused with him but you are not in the org either. Ik your roleplaying as a crime org but you can still iniate you chased these men down and sprayed their car you had an unfair advantage they had no time to react they most likely forgot about the mug and were focused on new things

 

[Jack Everadon]

ok I got you confused with him but you are not in the org either. Ik your roleplaying as a crime org but you can still iniate you chased these men down and sprayed their car you had an unfair advantage they had no time to react they most likely forgot about the mug and were focused on new things

It doesn't matter if im in the same org or not. Tatsuro was the one that was killed and at the time was on our frequency. Gregg states if they are on our frequency, we can kill the people that killed our friend.

 

[The JD]

Ok this is not a stated rule no. That is how he views its he never said its an enforced rule. This from my view after reviving the footage was rdm. I don't know how you know this happened to your friend it was said over radio by who how did they no the names etc? So I think this was badRp in my eyes and that you wanted to kill them for the fun.

 

[Jack Everadon]

No disrespect, but can you re-type that properly. I honestly can not tell what you are trying to state.

 

[The JD]

This appeal is being Denied. It seems like bad rp to me and that you wanted to kill them for fun. You did not initiate you were not their just heard it over radio and some how knew who it was 6 min after the fact. You had an unfair advantage and should have reiniated upon them. You claim it was for RP but they ment you no more threat most likely forgot about it and you both roll up and slaughter them I still think it was RDM. The freq and org thing r not set in stone rules so you are still having this blacklist