How to bring the server back?

[KbsmokeJDM]

mass unban wave and make it easier on newbies to get started. joining mono in 2017 compared to now is a completely different scenario. its dead, no players to help, no active shootouts in the middle of the street as you join, nothing. frag rp and org fights is a majority of the reason why people play. its the reason new players want to play. they want to get the crime roleplay scenarios that are advertised. and mass unban wave explains itself, old players return, server pop gets boosted, new players join.

 

[Brent Skeng]

snooze

 

[PiffTheSeal]

mass unban wave and make it easier on newbies to get started. joining mono in 2017 compared to now is a completely different scenario. its dead, no players to help, no active shootouts in the middle of the street as you join, nothing. frag rp and org fights is a majority of the reason why people play. its the reason new players want to play. they want to get the crime roleplay scenarios that are advertised. and mass unban wave explains itself, old players return, server pop gets boosted, new players join.

That’s the reason the server won’t get anywhere cause the mindset of oh everyone’s here for fragRP that’s cause people aren’t given any other choice cause you’ll get shot at for no reason by people who like fragRP some people just want to grind whatever to buy a new car in game or something, but that fragRP aspect ruins it, not everyone wants fragRP and something that annoying at times that can irritate a player shouldn’t be the main focus of entertainment for the entire server cause if that were the case then we might as well be a purge server.

Mfs with the fragRP mindset only are the most ignorant mfs ever and will only spend time on that and lack self control like I said so like if anything tiny mishap that happens that could give them a reason for shooting someone they will do it and it could just be someone accidentally ramming into them and they’ll do it cause they lack self control and the brain cells to simply let them go cause they’re doing their own thing and then you also have cops who like fragRP who have a sensitive trigger finger and will shoot at whatever and not follow ROE for shooting at people and will literally shoot at your car for being slightly tapped by it like the most stupid mfs are these people who thrive off of fragRP.

And I’ll use a very clear example of people like this literally any fucking org specifically since I personally had to do with these idiots informals and people who were at war with MSide these mfs broke rules simply to frag me and other people, just goes to show fragRP isn’t something good to be centered around cause these clowns for example are like in middle school or high school and lack self control and just frag to frag cause they don’t know any better.

And there’s a reason why mfs who center around fragRP get banned later down the road just look at every mfs who claims to be a “top fragger” they’re usually banned cause they’re dumb and just break rules you have the recent bans from the community and suspensions to show as an example even tho it wasn’t in game, they still do stuff that don’t need to be done and are stupid

 

[ma_bordo45]

mono becomes alive when map is changed to southside

 

[Tye]

That’s the reason the server won’t get anywhere cause the mindset of oh everyone’s here for fragRP that’s cause people aren’t given any other choice cause you’ll get shot at for no reason by people who like fragRP some people just want to grind whatever to buy a new car in game or something, but that fragRP aspect ruins it, not everyone wants fragRP and something that annoying at times that can irritate a player shouldn’t be the main focus of entertainment for the entire server cause if that were the case then we might as well be a purge server.

Mfs with the fragRP mindset only are the most ignorant mfs ever and will only spend time on that and lack self control like I said so like if anything tiny mishap that happens that could give them a reason for shooting someone they will do it and it could just be someone accidentally ramming into them and they’ll do it cause they lack self control and the brain cells to simply let them go cause they’re doing their own thing and then you also have cops who like fragRP who have a sensitive trigger finger and will shoot at whatever and not follow ROE for shooting at people and will literally shoot at your car for being slightly tapped by it like the most stupid mfs are these people who thrive off of fragRP.

And I’ll use a very clear example of people like this literally any fucking org specifically since I personally had to do with these idiots informals and people who were at war with MSide these mfs broke rules simply to frag me and other people, just goes to show fragRP isn’t something good to be centered around cause these clowns for example are like in middle school or high school and lack self control and just frag to frag cause they don’t know any better.

And there’s a reason why mfs who center around fragRP get banned later down the road just look at every mfs who claims to be a “top fragger” they’re usually banned cause they’re dumb and just break rules you have the recent bans from the community and suspensions to show as an example even tho it wasn’t in game, they still do stuff that don’t need to be done and are stupid

Whether frag RP is good or not isn't really important, people play because of frag rp, if there isnt frag rp, ppl dont play, if there is then ppl do.

 

[Arthgallo Trefynwy]

mass unban wave and make it easier on newbies to get started. joining mono in 2017 compared to now is a completely different scenario. its dead, no players to help, no active shootouts in the middle of the street as you join, nothing. frag rp and org fights is a majority of the reason why people play. its the reason new players want to play. they want to get the crime roleplay scenarios that are advertised. and mass unban wave explains itself, old players return, server pop gets boosted, new players join.

But this is why I stopped playing on this server. The death timers, item deployment proximity despawner, and the amount of fragRP made it impossible to do anything but cops and robbers here. When I first played on this server you could RP as a furniture salesman, or as a chef, or brewer, or literally any of the skill tree 'professions', without needing protection from organizations and three SCARs + body armor + an inventory of ammo. A really big killer for me was that proximity limit on deployed sellables - that basically made it useless to set up a storefront because some dickbag could just walk in, shoot you in the head, wait for you to respawn, then take all your shit. That happened A LOT, and if you're not in the larger criminal orgs, why should you try to do any kind of passive RP?

 

[Hyper360]

But this is why I stopped playing on this server. The death timers, item deployment proximity despawner, and the amount of fragRP made it impossible to do anything but cops and robbers here. When I first played on this server you could RP as a furniture salesman, or as a chef, or brewer, or literally any of the skill tree 'professions', without needing protection from organizations and three SCARs + body armor + an inventory of ammo. A really big killer for me was that proximity limit on deployed sellables - that basically made it useless to set up a storefront because some dickbag could just walk in, shoot you in the head, wait for you to respawn, then take all your shit. That happened A LOT, and if you're not in the larger criminal orgs, why should you try to do any kind of passive RP?

I meaaaaaaan... You have a point but they did recently lower all kinds of death timers by like 4x and now there are more admins so you dont have to worry about getting rdmed.

 

[Hyper360]

The server owners should also hire / get some new developers since a large majority of the devs there were earlier in monolith history have just vanished like they have gone to Half life 2 rp and DevulTJ is working for Gmod now. But it just seems like they don't care about their server anymore, and I think if they hired some more staff and people to help work on the server the pace of all the new things and addons they are making could happen a lot quicker and then they could do an "Unban wave" again. I know a lot of players quit because either their friends or themselves got perma banned for some reason, but people change and an unban wave would make monolith great again - new map

 

[PiffTheSeal]

Whether frag RP is good or not isn't really important, people play because of frag rp, if there isnt frag rp, ppl dont play, if there is then ppl do.

If people played cause of FragRp Why is the server dead rn, that makes no sense, fragRP causes people to leave, im not saying FragRP doesnt have some type of significance, but not everyone is simply here cause of FragRP, theres a lot more to the server than FragRP, your point if anything is idiotic because there is always fragRP and its easily done so saying there needs to be more of it is a dumb statement, if anything FragRP isn't contributing to anything significant like i said because like i said before there is more to the server than fragRP to other people else than you and the people you're around.

 

[PiffTheSeal]

But this is why I stopped playing on this server. The death timers, item deployment proximity despawner, and the amount of fragRP made it impossible to do anything but cops and robbers here. When I first played on this server you could RP as a furniture salesman, or as a chef, or brewer, or literally any of the skill tree 'professions', without needing protection from organizations and three SCARs + body armor + an inventory of ammo. A really big killer for me was that proximity limit on deployed sellables - that basically made it useless to set up a storefront because some dickbag could just walk in, shoot you in the head, wait for you to respawn, then take all your shit. That happened A LOT, and if you're not in the larger criminal orgs, why should you try to do any kind of passive RP?

Also you hit it right on the head, this is what a lot of people want to do, but its impossible with how people are and how they have a frag/raid boner to raid or frag anyone regardless of who they are

 

[Brent Skeng]

ofc its frag rp when there is only cops and robbers aspects. We cant own businesses or run any shops with any real incentive or proper structure system in place.

So the server is always gunna be frag rp so they are correct in every possible way.

Until the server offers more how can u say its not

 

[Sokolov]

The way I see it and potential solutions.

1. Less banning people and more blacklisting, you could basically blacklist someone to the point they are entirely crippled and incapable of doing anything but farming. I propose revising punishments, the punishment should reflect the offence...
   e.g. Mass RDM? = Weapons Black list 1 week.
   However no punishment in my opinion should go over 1 month, Monolith is a revenue stream for Thriving Ventures right? It's a balancing act.
   Unless they are literally cheating, ddosing, etc...
   
   
2. Actual proactive staffing, actively patrolling the map in no-clip and only intervening when other players have been directly impacted negatively by someone else violating rules. However, if you can see a rule offense is about to happen, advise that player through the PMs without interrupting RP.
   THIS CAN LITERALLY PREVENT STUPID 30MIN ADMINS SITS... Admins sits shouldn't even last that long, it's such a waste of game time!
   
   
3. Frag RP isn't going away, a majority of players are past the grinding stage now, and with the stupid requirements of crafting base building props its not encouraging for players to engage in passive RP. I'm meaning passive RP props to btw.
   
   
4. S&box is the future for Monolith, this server has served us all well but obviously in a dying state sadly.

P.S. I'm not making a ban appeal for my current 6 month ban.

 

[Brent Skeng]

The way I see it and potential solutions.

1. Less banning people and more blacklisting, you could basically blacklist someone to the point they are entirely crippled and incapable of doing anything but farming. I propose revising punishments, the punishment should reflect the offence...
   e.g. Mass RDM? = Weapons Black list 1 week.
   However no punishment in my opinion should go over 1 month, Monolith is a revenue stream for Thriving Ventures right? It's a balancing act.
   Unless they are literally cheating, ddosing, etc...
   
   
2. Actual proactive staffing, actively patrolling the map in no-clip and only intervening when other players have been directly impacted negatively by someone else violating rules. However, if you can see a rule offense is about to happen, advise that player through the PMs without interrupting RP.
   THIS CAN LITERALLY PREVENT STUPID 30MIN ADMINS SITS... Admins sits shouldn't even last that long, it's such a waste of game time!
   
   
3. Frag RP isn't going away, a majority of players are past the grinding stage now, and with the stupid requirements of crafting base building props its not encouraging for players to engage in passive RP. I'm meaning passive RP props to btw.
   
   
4. S&box is the future for Monolith, this server has served us all well but obviously in a dying state sadly.

P.S. I'm not making a ban appeal for my current 6 month ban.

100% agree
The server has blacklist for a reason and for reasons mentioned u can literally stop people breaking the same rule again by just blacklisting them.

RDM = Weapon blacklist
VDM = Vehicle blacklist
Proppush = Physgun blacklist
OOC smacktalk = OOC Blacklist

Everything is literally preventable! So let them play the server and be restricted from things they are not trusted with.
Tbh blacklist was used much more in paralake than bans and i feel it worked much better.

Ban, Ban and ban is all admins wanna do than use such a simple system.

 

[Tye]

If people played cause of FragRp Why is the server dead rn,

cus frag RP died? Most of the people who were frag RPing got banned and server died cus of it. Also ur whole point is so out of touch, the majority of the players play for Frag RP, without it the server dies and no one, including ppl who enjoy passive RP can actually have fun on the server.

 

[DK.]

cus frag RP died? Most of the people who were frag RPing got banned and server died cus of it. Also ur whole point is so out of touch, the majority of the players play for Frag RP, without it the server dies and no one, including ppl who enjoy passive RP can actually have fun on the server.

PassiveRP and FragRP can coexist very easily. So many items players need for FragRP can be sold. Food, Drinks, Ammo, Crafted Kev, You can also take the chance to sell weapons but I would not reccomend it.

 

[KuroShukun]

uNBAN eVERYONE aND wHIPE aLL rECORDS clean AND ADVERTISE THAT IT IS SO even forgive the hackers from the past, we must give all a chance to turn over a new leaf.

 

[RX55927R11DEZ]

PassiveRP and FragRP can coexist very easily. So many items players need for FragRP can be sold. Food, Drinks, Ammo, Crafted Kev, You can also take the chance to sell weapons but I would not reccomend it.

It wasn't an issue in 2017-2019, with all the restaurants, casinos, (mostly legal) gun stores for the large amount of new players who needed something like a five seven or m1911 and their backrooms for those more well off and with more connections. Nobody who was focused on the riskier style of playing bothered them or looked out to them for a free +1 in their kill count, so I don't see why it'd be an issue now. And I was struggling to get a free spot on the server some days then.

I mean shit, one of the most popular mono videos ever is about selling tacos and it only ends in a shootout due to a conflict caused by the chef himself.

One of the most prominent parts of paralake and early truenorth (for me) was the gambino family actually roleplaying a mob family with their casino across from the supermarket and advertising with actual videos and branding while the doing the dirty work in Bollers street and in the outskirts houses. Not to mention The Firm with Tyla Hardy and and Mark and their whole thing with the rolls royce and the fiverr videos and gun branding and blah blah blah. The original Sinclair's Estate org page is also a great set of reading from around the time.

There was even a brief period on Riverden where a good third of the server just decided they would like to actually roleplay and do their businesses and restaurants and that wasn't even that long ago.

 

[fedayeenwinners]

uNBAN eVERYONE aND wHIPE aLL rECORDS clean

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[Tye]

PassiveRP and FragRP can coexist very easily. So many items players need for FragRP can be sold. Food, Drinks, Ammo, Crafted Kev, You can also take the chance to sell weapons but I would not reccomend it.

Ofc they can coexist I enjoy both, my biggest issue is when people rant on and on about how bad fragrp is when it is what keeps the server alive

 

[DK.]

uNBAN eVERYONE aND wHIPE aLL rECORDS clean AND ADVERTISE THAT IT IS SO even forgive the hackers from the past, we must give all a chance to turn over a new leaf.

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