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Now, To add onto the discussion and not get my response deleted for "Sarcasm" or "Bruh" I'll actually say something useful.
At my time on Monolith I used to get bullied outright every day by admins that didn't like me being honest to them.
What I've basically learned from this is if you fight back on the server, You get pushed back even more. Now people might say that you can avoid this by doing "Proper Criticism", But in my opinion, That's utter bullshit. I'm not gonna name drop anybody, Because If I did, This would, Again, Be removed. I hope I added something into this discussion now, And I'm gonna say what I said two times now.
Funny. All of the reasons above are literally why I left Monolith.
From what I see, Everything has been addressed on the thread. Now, It's your turn to decide if you want to do anything about it. I'll happily return if you actually improve on these points, And if not, I'm pretty sure the community will notice that you do not care and start acting on it themselves.
Peace!
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The issue is that every single thread that I've seen like that has turned to drama or been derailed.
If you want to show him that you appreciate him, read what I wrote above. If you want to inform us (cm) that he is doing a good job so we know, then you can throw any of us a message. If that is the case, we've also considered to make an anonymous way to compliment staff with a sort of form to fill out. Does this sound like something you guys would like/use or not?
It has not changed yet, but based on your feedback we will try our best to improve this, as it was never intended in that way.
This has been changed, rewards have been implemented for staff who are on duty in the shape of a in-game paycheck. Rewards have been made available for the different teams such as report management, media, marketing etc.
I think I already replied to maj. kat's version of this, but... wow.
If we do that we have 10 posts in an already explosive thread saying "i agree".
If you agree just throw a like on the posts so we can see it. If you have something substantial to add, do so in a post.
This is more noted for anyone reading this than the OP. If this happens to you, feel free to DM me on discord or the forums. If a staff member is bullying you, let me know. That is in no way acceptable.
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What do you mean? "its a gmod server? why are you guys thinking that this is some revelation" what are you referring to
Well, when spending a lot of time for something like this, you really would hope the best for it, as I do, in a sense.
As long as the things we've all talked about change I could see things be nice for Monolith, but, at this current point in time, it's kinda saddening to see something you spent a lot of time towards end up gong poorly.
I was mainly implying two different types of rewards here, I should've made myself more clear.
The first "reward" was more-so recognition for things you do. I'm mainly regarding Maj.Kats demotion here, after all the things done for the community you wouldn't really see yourself getting recognized by a demotion for one "mistake."
The second one was in game rewards.
"wow" is how I felt about it too, knowing what goes on behind the scenes really opens your mind up to how things really are
Possibly I am biased considering a friend of mine was treated this way after years of dedication, but I'd say the bias has good reasoning behind it.
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An anonymous way to compliment staff would be great, would prefer it to be optional but anything is a good step in the right direction. Also glad to hear you are looking into improving it. At the end of the day the community has said the problems it is up to you and the rest of the staff team if you want too listen to them and act on them, for everyone's sake i hope you and the rest of the staff team takes all of these problems seriously and tries to improve/fix them.
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He was surprised? One person did Wow, Im not trying to nitpick but it seemed from your post that you were referring to this whole thread. Clearly you werent.
Final point worth bringing up,
I know I'll be told the same old thing about how I should focus on my own shit, like that matters any, I think that if CM's say they are going to change, might as well see how they try. If they can right the wrongs and make this place better I am sure a lot of people will happily rejoin this place, that is if that happens. It means people already used to this behavior will suddenly need to act like someone they never were.
Calling Maj out on the anti cheat reference is a bit worrying for current players because there is NO anticheat on Monolith. There's even anticheats that ban people using AOSHack, I don't get why they won't even try. Meth and CH are hard to catch and probably never will be, but damn if you can get on with a free .DLL injected hack and do as you please, you know you got a problem.
I at no point ever intended to attack or try to start a crusade against Monolith. I was a fuckin' Server Director at one point. Saying I am trying to destroy Monolith or start some malicious war is so fucking unnecessary given that I like many others have genuine negative feelings with how the community was ran, given that a lot of things were CM doing with no chance for any SD to overturn the decisions. But countless times with Tj in DM's and Tj in this post, its clear he is operating off feelings versus fact. Trying to label me as a person with an agenda is retarded, I never one intended to create any problem like that. But of course, it's a label you got now, there's no shaking a label off someone when you have no one supervising you.
You can say you love your staff all you want, the fact some people felt like they were working for a Fortune 500 company, or a 9 to 5 job, is pretty sad. Report counts, how much they go on LOA, all these numbers you assign staff makes them feel like Agent 47. Mindless drone doing things they were told to do with a barcone engrained to their skull.
I know I'll be told the same old thing about how I should focus on my own shit, like that matters any, I think that if CM's say they are going to change, might as well see how they try. If they can right the wrongs and make this place better I am sure a lot of people will happily rejoin this place, that is if that happens. It means people already used to this behavior will suddenly need to act like someone they never were.
Calling Maj out on the anti cheat reference is a bit worrying for current players because there is NO anticheat on Monolith. There's even anticheats that ban people using AOSHack, I don't get why they won't even try. Meth and CH are hard to catch and probably never will be, but damn if you can get on with a free .DLL injected hack and do as you please, you know you got a problem.
I at no point ever intended to attack or try to start a crusade against Monolith. I was a fuckin' Server Director at one point. Saying I am trying to destroy Monolith or start some malicious war is so fucking unnecessary given that I like many others have genuine negative feelings with how the community was ran, given that a lot of things were CM doing with no chance for any SD to overturn the decisions. But countless times with Tj in DM's and Tj in this post, its clear he is operating off feelings versus fact. Trying to label me as a person with an agenda is retarded, I never one intended to create any problem like that. But of course, it's a label you got now, there's no shaking a label off someone when you have no one supervising you.
You can say you love your staff all you want, the fact some people felt like they were working for a Fortune 500 company, or a 9 to 5 job, is pretty sad. Report counts, how much they go on LOA, all these numbers you assign staff makes them feel like Agent 47. Mindless drone doing things they were told to do with a barcone engrained to their skull.
This is the most precise opnion in this whole thread. If monolith managers keep refusing to see/admit these problems you mention, or if management keeps finding excuses to denies it, there is no hope of change within Monolith community.
I feel like we've disproved this in the thread already.
This will be my last post tonight since it's 3am and I'm going to bed.
Thank you all for your input in this thread so far. It has been eye opening for sure. We will read through this thread again and note down the constructive criticism we've been given and we will definitely do our best to change these faults that we have.
Some things in this thread has already been changed, some have already been discussed internally, but a vast majority will of course take time.
We will not feel the changes overnight, so we ask for patience. We will try our best to make it as swift as we can but it will without a doubt be an ongoing process.
As I've mentioned earlier, I'm always available to be contacted with questions or concerns on discord or here on the forums. If I don't reply I'm sleeping and will reply when I wake up.
If they say that, its because they want to invalidate your argument by portraiting you as an enemy. Its just another way to deny the problems and keep repeating the same narrative. Just like labeling everyone who criticize anything they dont like as "malicious" "making drama" and banning them in an attempt to not admit their faults. This is being the main ill in this community
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You management have already said multiple times that "Silencing people were never our intent" or "We do not want to censor anyone". But just the first time you guys allow a thread like this to exist and people feel confortable to speak their minds without fear, There is a flood of messages from dissatisfied people who have not had room to speak before. Look at what this thread has become, almost like an escape valve for all this tension that was accumulated due to the censorship that you guys had been condoning until then.
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Well I actually have a brain (I hope), and I can agree with some points. I really haven't interacted with community management besides those who stop by to VC, I've only heard Stuvi talk once and it was for disciplinary action. In the past I thought all of mangement was scary, and I was afraid to criticize because it's always been this unspoken rule to "not talk about CM", but people like PMX, Gregg and Maj took the time to actually talk to you. Recently even Tj started to hang out with the staff more too, and he's a pretty nice guy actually. But I do wish they would be more transparent, even if they are trying
The staff team and how they do things has changed over the years, it used to be way more competitive and stressful with certain guidelines we had to meet. There are a lot of new faces that I still don't recognize, and it's nice seeing old friends that I wish stayed because they made staffing fun
We have acknowledged this issue both in this thread (I think, I've honestly lost track of what I've been typing) and internally. We have been way too harsh on forum moderation, without a doubt and this too will change. If you feel something happens to your post or you on the forums that is unjust, feel free to message me.
EDIT: Wait I was going to bed, shit
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