Your Steam Name: Drew
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:23894491
Your Character Name (If Applicable): Steve Hongle
Admin being reported( Tag by writing @ before their forum name) @TXFURRYDUDE
Reason for Report: Abuse of administrative power by voiding valid situations,
powergaming by forcing officers to remove valid warrants, lying to players in staff situations as well
taking ingame word over video evidence (The player being arrested wasn't TP'd into the sit with me nor did @TXFURRYDUDE say they showed him video evidence, just made a report I assume)
Read the "Evidence to support your claim" section before proceeding, it'll provide context and background to the 3 paragraphs below
Two reasons why I'm making this report. 1. Her warrant shouldn't of been voided, see evidence below 2. It's frustrating that when you don't break rules, but admins force you to roleplay a certain way they want you to play. I broke no rules here in placing the warrant as it's valid, yet @TXFURRYDUDE wants the warrant voided. When I asked what rules did I break by placing the warrant, he didn't say it's against any and said I should tell the chief someone is trying to get me fired. (Keep in mind, I showed TXFurry the video below of her with illegal items, I also told in Gov chat right when the false 911 call was made, that those were Marijuana seeds, not tomato seeds and I got video evidence if needed. So it wouldn't make sense for me to leave the person with the illegal items, go to the chief instead and not handcuff this person). *Pretty sure I also voice radio called in that it was a false 911 call so there's no reason for me to leave a suspect unhandcuffed and tell the chief in person
This is the problems players run into, staff using their power to control other players when they haven't broken any rules. I could've jailed her for a short time, or written a ticket, or interrogate her about who else she's exchanging marijuana seeds with, or scoped out her property since she dropped illegal items to her friend in front of me and then had a warrant placed on her. All of these actions would've been within the rules and roleplay but because an Admin doesn't like that roleplay, he'll void a situation with no rules broken.
This kind of dictating roleplay from staff makes gameplay on Monolith linear and vastly limits gameplay options on Monolith even though what I did was within the rules. I understand dictating gameplay if rules (and ingame guidelines such as excessive punishments, too big of fines, etc) are broken, but no rules were broken here. If someone has possession of illegal items, drops them for a friend and does illegal activities, they should be handcuffed and roleplay should proceed. I don't think it should be *admin comes in, says what he wants to happen (even though no rules are broken) and then threatens with OOC action if what he wants to happen doesn't happen.
Time of Occurrence: 5:10 PM PST 12/11/2020
Evidence to support your claim: Context of the situation - I'm walking past super market as a police officer and overhear Scarlett Jade say "I'm going to drop the Marijuana seeds" and she gives them to a friend. Here's the video - https://streamable.com/xqees5
I goto handcuff and question her, after which she then makes a false 911 call trying to get me fired by saying I handcuffed her for tomato seeds. I'm about to arrest her when TXFURRY pulls me into a different situation that lasts a minute and I'm cleared of. I'm teleported back and shes gone, so I PM TXFurry saying they left. No response. Okay, that's fine. Ill just place a warrant and find her when I can. I place a warrant and find it's taken off shortly after. I radio in and am told by the Police Chief that TXFURRY told him to take it off. I told him to refer him to me since I have video evidence (Plus he has logs of me placing the warrant, along her with the marijuana seeds in posession so I don't know why he'd take her ingame word. As far as I know, the player being warranted never showed a video from her point. I could be wrong but was never told by TXFURRY that he was shown a video from her view) I place the warrant again and seconds after TXFURRY teleports to me. I show him this video (https://streamable.com/1bhhrq) of her posessing the seeds and explain that she made a false 911 call trying to get me fired. (I believe 911 calls have logs too, nonetheless evidence of that is below)
This is a video of what he said after I showed the video. https://streamable.com/oap6k0
He told me to remove the warrant. I said why? He said because he said so. I asked what's against the rules here? He then told me I should go to the chief and that if there's another warrant on her "then we're gonna have problems", implying that I should not handcuff people for possessing illegal items (marijuana seeds) and doing illegal activites (making false 911 calls). He then flew away and forced another officer to remove the warrant.
*Disclaimer - Below these edits were made after his 2nd reply since I didn't address him lying until after I made the OP. These edits below are in my 3rd reply if he choses to respond*
Additional EDIT: @TXFURRYDUDE Lied to the chief as well.
Since you also haven't addressed @DystopianRaven 's post in the 2 replies, you lied to him in a staff sit regarding this situation, and said "Someone received a false warrant for possession of marijuana seeds... and the cop couldn't prove it" ( https://streamable.com/ufmm08) after I told you previously that I have video evidence showing her with posession of marijauna seeds, 5 minutes before you teleported to DystopianRaven and lied to him. You never asked for it until AFTER you made the chief take off the warrant and had lied to him about me not being able to prove it.
The police chief in the video suspected you were lying to his face too, because I had previously sent via text gov chat something along the lines of "it was marijuana seeds, I have video evidence" immediately after the false 911 call was made, before you confronted him in that video.
Here's the video of me telling you I have video EVIDENCE, BEFORE you teleported to the chief and lied to him about how I couldn't prove it. https://streamable.com/1gxmtc
I told you in that previous sit seen in the video as well that I have a video of her with marijuana seeds and her saying I have marijuana seeds, along with her making a false 911 call. You replied with "okay fine I'll put you back" indicating to me that you had no problem with what I had just told you.
You also lied to the chief and didn't mention the other part of the warrant reason which was the false 911 call.
You didn't even teleport to ask, PM or ask me for evidence until after I warranted her for a second time, since you forced the chief to remove the warrant the 1st time. As far as I know, the opposing player being warranted didn't even provide video/photo evidence for their side. It seems like you were going off of their word and logs without taking in evidence from me or her at the time when you lied to the chief to remove the warrant.
I had even told you my side BEFORE you went to the chief to remove the warrant. Yet you still chose the opposing players side. You were keen on removing the warrant (Since you lied to the chief, stating the "cop couldn't prove it" even though you never asked or saw the evidence until after you forced the chief to remove it). I showed you the evidence in the interrogation room after I told you what happened again, and you still wanted the warrant removed.
Another EDIT: Here's things in chronological order so it's not confusing.
1st . https://streamable.com/xqees5 - video of player saying "I'm going to drop my marijuana seeds" and then dropping them. I proceed to handcuff them for this and continue RP. (If you're saying this isn't valid evidence, constructive possession is still a possession charge) - *This is when someone intentionally drops illegal items off their person/inventory and it's in their immediate vicinity. In this case, right in front of the person who dropped them.
Just moments after I handcuff them, they commit fraud and make a false 911 call trying to get me fired saying I handcuffed them for tomato seeds (I told them I handcuffed them for illegal marijuana seeds)
2. - screenshot of the player I handcuffed making a false 911 call to try to get the chief to demote me so I can't proceed with them. TXFURRY comes up to me shortly and teleports me to an entirely different situation.
3. https://streamable.com/1gxmtc - Video of me telling TXFURRY while in that totally different sit, that I have video evidence of a player possessing marijuana seeds and a false 911 call. He replies "Ok fine I'll put you back". Indicating to me he didn't have a problem with what I just said. He then goes on to lie to the police chief about this.
4. https://streamable.com/ufmm08 - @TXFURRYDUDE 5 minutes later, lying to the Police chief, saying "Someone received a false warrant for possession of marijuana seeds... and the cop couldn't prove it" A. I told you BEFORE you teleported to the police chief that I do have video evidence, of which you never teleported or even asked me to see. (Even though I told you I had it) B. You lied to the police chief in the staff sit twice, you left out the false 911 call being apart of reason for the warrant when you said it was a false warrant, even though it was written in the warrant reasoning and I told you prior.
5. https://streamable.com/oap6k0 - I place a warrant after the chief told me you told him to remove it, I told him to refer the admin to me since I have video evidence. You TP to me, I show you the video. Then you say something along the lines of remove the warrant which is where this video starts.
6. -Screenshot after he left the sit and of me saying "I'm an officer in the PD, If I see someone with illegal items doing illegal crimes, I'll arrest them" which is in response to TXFURRY previously saying I can't arrest people for marijuana seeds and a false 911 call (even though in the video she drops them to her friend which could be distribution of a controlled substance charge if I wanted to be a huge asshole), both of which are illegal (an intentional false 911 call can result in jail time IRL, especially if you're using it to commit fraud and trying get someone falsely fired).
For small crimes depending on their criminal history they'll probably have a smaller sentence then the default. However, TXFURRY didn't even let us place a warrant to pursue her even though no rules were broken on our end. I've been a police officer on this server for a good amount of the hours I've played here and know that these crimes aren't something that should go above 7 or 8 minutes in jail, but I do know they're illegal and still can warrant jail time.
Additional members involved/witnessing: @DystopianRaven
Read, understood and followed staff report rules?: Yes
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:23894491
Your Character Name (If Applicable): Steve Hongle
Admin being reported( Tag by writing @ before their forum name) @TXFURRYDUDE
Reason for Report: Abuse of administrative power by voiding valid situations,
powergaming by forcing officers to remove valid warrants, lying to players in staff situations as well
taking ingame word over video evidence (The player being arrested wasn't TP'd into the sit with me nor did @TXFURRYDUDE say they showed him video evidence, just made a report I assume)
Read the "Evidence to support your claim" section before proceeding, it'll provide context and background to the 3 paragraphs below
Two reasons why I'm making this report. 1. Her warrant shouldn't of been voided, see evidence below 2. It's frustrating that when you don't break rules, but admins force you to roleplay a certain way they want you to play. I broke no rules here in placing the warrant as it's valid, yet @TXFURRYDUDE wants the warrant voided. When I asked what rules did I break by placing the warrant, he didn't say it's against any and said I should tell the chief someone is trying to get me fired. (Keep in mind, I showed TXFurry the video below of her with illegal items, I also told in Gov chat right when the false 911 call was made, that those were Marijuana seeds, not tomato seeds and I got video evidence if needed. So it wouldn't make sense for me to leave the person with the illegal items, go to the chief instead and not handcuff this person). *Pretty sure I also voice radio called in that it was a false 911 call so there's no reason for me to leave a suspect unhandcuffed and tell the chief in person
This is the problems players run into, staff using their power to control other players when they haven't broken any rules. I could've jailed her for a short time, or written a ticket, or interrogate her about who else she's exchanging marijuana seeds with, or scoped out her property since she dropped illegal items to her friend in front of me and then had a warrant placed on her. All of these actions would've been within the rules and roleplay but because an Admin doesn't like that roleplay, he'll void a situation with no rules broken.
This kind of dictating roleplay from staff makes gameplay on Monolith linear and vastly limits gameplay options on Monolith even though what I did was within the rules. I understand dictating gameplay if rules (and ingame guidelines such as excessive punishments, too big of fines, etc) are broken, but no rules were broken here. If someone has possession of illegal items, drops them for a friend and does illegal activities, they should be handcuffed and roleplay should proceed. I don't think it should be *admin comes in, says what he wants to happen (even though no rules are broken) and then threatens with OOC action if what he wants to happen doesn't happen.
Time of Occurrence: 5:10 PM PST 12/11/2020
Evidence to support your claim: Context of the situation - I'm walking past super market as a police officer and overhear Scarlett Jade say "I'm going to drop the Marijuana seeds" and she gives them to a friend. Here's the video - https://streamable.com/xqees5
I goto handcuff and question her, after which she then makes a false 911 call trying to get me fired by saying I handcuffed her for tomato seeds. I'm about to arrest her when TXFURRY pulls me into a different situation that lasts a minute and I'm cleared of. I'm teleported back and shes gone, so I PM TXFurry saying they left. No response. Okay, that's fine. Ill just place a warrant and find her when I can. I place a warrant and find it's taken off shortly after. I radio in and am told by the Police Chief that TXFURRY told him to take it off. I told him to refer him to me since I have video evidence (Plus he has logs of me placing the warrant, along her with the marijuana seeds in posession so I don't know why he'd take her ingame word. As far as I know, the player being warranted never showed a video from her point. I could be wrong but was never told by TXFURRY that he was shown a video from her view) I place the warrant again and seconds after TXFURRY teleports to me. I show him this video (https://streamable.com/1bhhrq) of her posessing the seeds and explain that she made a false 911 call trying to get me fired. (I believe 911 calls have logs too, nonetheless evidence of that is below)
This is a video of what he said after I showed the video. https://streamable.com/oap6k0
He told me to remove the warrant. I said why? He said because he said so. I asked what's against the rules here? He then told me I should go to the chief and that if there's another warrant on her "then we're gonna have problems", implying that I should not handcuff people for possessing illegal items (marijuana seeds) and doing illegal activites (making false 911 calls). He then flew away and forced another officer to remove the warrant.
*Disclaimer - Below these edits were made after his 2nd reply since I didn't address him lying until after I made the OP. These edits below are in my 3rd reply if he choses to respond*
Additional EDIT: @TXFURRYDUDE Lied to the chief as well.
Since you also haven't addressed @DystopianRaven 's post in the 2 replies, you lied to him in a staff sit regarding this situation, and said "Someone received a false warrant for possession of marijuana seeds... and the cop couldn't prove it" ( https://streamable.com/ufmm08) after I told you previously that I have video evidence showing her with posession of marijauna seeds, 5 minutes before you teleported to DystopianRaven and lied to him. You never asked for it until AFTER you made the chief take off the warrant and had lied to him about me not being able to prove it.
The police chief in the video suspected you were lying to his face too, because I had previously sent via text gov chat something along the lines of "it was marijuana seeds, I have video evidence" immediately after the false 911 call was made, before you confronted him in that video.
Here's the video of me telling you I have video EVIDENCE, BEFORE you teleported to the chief and lied to him about how I couldn't prove it. https://streamable.com/1gxmtc
I told you in that previous sit seen in the video as well that I have a video of her with marijuana seeds and her saying I have marijuana seeds, along with her making a false 911 call. You replied with "okay fine I'll put you back" indicating to me that you had no problem with what I had just told you.
You also lied to the chief and didn't mention the other part of the warrant reason which was the false 911 call.
You didn't even teleport to ask, PM or ask me for evidence until after I warranted her for a second time, since you forced the chief to remove the warrant the 1st time. As far as I know, the opposing player being warranted didn't even provide video/photo evidence for their side. It seems like you were going off of their word and logs without taking in evidence from me or her at the time when you lied to the chief to remove the warrant.
I had even told you my side BEFORE you went to the chief to remove the warrant. Yet you still chose the opposing players side. You were keen on removing the warrant (Since you lied to the chief, stating the "cop couldn't prove it" even though you never asked or saw the evidence until after you forced the chief to remove it). I showed you the evidence in the interrogation room after I told you what happened again, and you still wanted the warrant removed.
Another EDIT: Here's things in chronological order so it's not confusing.
1st . https://streamable.com/xqees5 - video of player saying "I'm going to drop my marijuana seeds" and then dropping them. I proceed to handcuff them for this and continue RP. (If you're saying this isn't valid evidence, constructive possession is still a possession charge) - *This is when someone intentionally drops illegal items off their person/inventory and it's in their immediate vicinity. In this case, right in front of the person who dropped them.
Just moments after I handcuff them, they commit fraud and make a false 911 call trying to get me fired saying I handcuffed them for tomato seeds (I told them I handcuffed them for illegal marijuana seeds)
2. - screenshot of the player I handcuffed making a false 911 call to try to get the chief to demote me so I can't proceed with them. TXFURRY comes up to me shortly and teleports me to an entirely different situation.
3. https://streamable.com/1gxmtc - Video of me telling TXFURRY while in that totally different sit, that I have video evidence of a player possessing marijuana seeds and a false 911 call. He replies "Ok fine I'll put you back". Indicating to me he didn't have a problem with what I just said. He then goes on to lie to the police chief about this.
4. https://streamable.com/ufmm08 - @TXFURRYDUDE 5 minutes later, lying to the Police chief, saying "Someone received a false warrant for possession of marijuana seeds... and the cop couldn't prove it" A. I told you BEFORE you teleported to the police chief that I do have video evidence, of which you never teleported or even asked me to see. (Even though I told you I had it) B. You lied to the police chief in the staff sit twice, you left out the false 911 call being apart of reason for the warrant when you said it was a false warrant, even though it was written in the warrant reasoning and I told you prior.
5. https://streamable.com/oap6k0 - I place a warrant after the chief told me you told him to remove it, I told him to refer the admin to me since I have video evidence. You TP to me, I show you the video. Then you say something along the lines of remove the warrant which is where this video starts.
6. -Screenshot after he left the sit and of me saying "I'm an officer in the PD, If I see someone with illegal items doing illegal crimes, I'll arrest them" which is in response to TXFURRY previously saying I can't arrest people for marijuana seeds and a false 911 call (even though in the video she drops them to her friend which could be distribution of a controlled substance charge if I wanted to be a huge asshole), both of which are illegal (an intentional false 911 call can result in jail time IRL, especially if you're using it to commit fraud and trying get someone falsely fired).
For small crimes depending on their criminal history they'll probably have a smaller sentence then the default. However, TXFURRY didn't even let us place a warrant to pursue her even though no rules were broken on our end. I've been a police officer on this server for a good amount of the hours I've played here and know that these crimes aren't something that should go above 7 or 8 minutes in jail, but I do know they're illegal and still can warrant jail time.
Additional members involved/witnessing: @DystopianRaven
Read, understood and followed staff report rules?: Yes
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