The serious decline of player count.

[Credence]

I also see that and when I was staff myself I didn't understand how admins+ can just rarely show up. But to your part about benefits, what exactly do you think they get?? Not sure if I'm allowed to say but only marketing team get's "benefits" and thats because they're literally helping to get more players on the server. Also they don't get paid IRL money unless your a dev. There is NO benefits.

the ability to spawn cars for themselves and just the bragging rights of being staff.

 

[Alphadef]

its easy to say that players are dedicating their free time to staff on the server but i dont see it from like 70% of staff. its like they get staff only for the benefits and not to help players. we have staff members that come on once every 2 months and take 3 reports and thats acceptable? why are people applying to be something they only want for the clout? ofc not all staff is like this its just a few that need to wake up or step down.

This is just my personal opinion but I never understood the idea of demotion for being inactive. We don't have a limited capacity on the staff team so I can never think of a situation where it's better to have someone who's qualified not be a staff member when they could be. Even if they only get on on occasion they're still useful when they are on. I prefer the idea of maxing out quantity while maintaining quality. But thats just my personal thoughts.

 

[iaosham]

Staff have ban a lot of people, people who kept the servers active and thriving, Monolith struggles to keep the server active doing so.

 

[MrTaxi]

Perhaps a weird way of doing that would be rewriting the rules for clarity instead of "this staff member said" as a way of making the rules, and removing restrictions on players in terms of gameplay so they can be more creative. It isn't fun grinding and getting shot and losing it all while waiting for staff members to spawn stuff in or issue whitelists or take reports or build events. Some of these powers could easily be put in the hands of the players.

I 100% agree

 

[braidan]

the ability to spawn cars for themselves and just the bragging rights of being staff.

tbh anyone who "brags" about being staff on a 16 year old game server is just cringe. thats my opinion, but if you think your badass because of it then that's alright but just don't get ahead of yourself and ruin the experience for others

 

[Credence]

This is just my personal opinion but I never understood the idea of demotion for being inactive. We don't have a limited capacity on the staff team so I can never think of a situation where it's better to have someone who's qualified not be a staff member when they could be. Even if they only get on on occasion they're still useful when they are on. I prefer the idea of maxing out quantity while maintaining quality. But thats just my personal thoughts.

Because they could be taking the place of someone who can be much more active. Would you like to go to mc donalds and see no one working there? im sure you would care and not say oh well ill wait for them to come back

 

[MrTaxi]

Cops get punished less harshly and less frequently, ik you havent played in a while but ask anyone who isnt a cop main.

I kinda switch back and forth, and I can definitely confirm this, after seeing it from both ways. I’ve seen cops get off easy, and I’ve been let off easy.

 

[Tyro]

Crime RP which is the biggest driving force of the server, is completely dead. Nobody bases, there's no raids no muggings no nothing, nothing is happening. Everyone just kind of stands around sunset island and does nothing. Even without a dominant org, nobody is doing anything. The past few weeks when I started playing again, I have noticed that only my org does any major crime activity. I'm not exactly sure why this is, whether its cuz nobody wants to make money anymore, or there's so much cop spam, that people just don't think its possible. But I believe that is a major reason why the server is in such a major slump.

 

[Alphadef]

Because they could be taking the place of someone who can be much more active. Would you like to go to mc donalds and see no one working there? im sure you would care and not say oh well ill wait for them to come back

Well again, the capacity of the team is not limited. Staff apps are never closed so nobody is "taking the place of" somebody. And again it is a volunteer position, not a job. The only benefits are in game so if you're not in game you're not exactly enjoying any benefits without being active.

 

[iaosham]

What's sad is the Forums are more active than the server considering the staggering amount of bans that staff have put on other players

 

[Deleted member 12627]

If I could also point out another thing, staff spawn staff cars just so they can't get their cars stolen and it seems abusive in manor. This needs to be addressed as it actively inhibits roleplay. The fact you can be in a shootout and need to steal a car to escape, then 2 seconds later after lockpicking a police car it gets despawned and you're left out in the open to die.

 

[Credence]

Well again, the capacity of the team is not limited. Staff apps are never closed so nobody is "taking the place of" somebody. And again it is a volunteer position, not a job. The only benefits are in game so if you're not in game you're not exactly enjoying any benefits without being active.

if they are volunteering to be an inactive staff member then they are volunteering for the wrong reason.

 

[Alphadef]

What's sad is the Forums are more active than the server considering the staggering amount of bans that staff have put on other players

Banned players earn their bans.

 

[Deleted member 12627]

Crime RP which is the biggest driving force of the server, is completely dead. Nobody bases, there's no raids no muggings no nothing, nothing is happening. Everyone just kind of stands around sunset island and does nothing. Even without a dominant org, nobody is doing anything. The past few weeks when I started playing again, I have noticed that only my org does any major crime activity. I'm not exactly sure why this is, whether its cuz nobody wants to make money anymore, or there's so much cop spam, that people just don't think its possible. But I believe that is a major reason why the server is in such a major slump.

This is a major reason, but also because they went and got themselves banned doing stupid shit. I do believe those people should be given 2nd chances however, they made the server fun.

 

[iaosham]

The Organizations and gangs that use to thrive throughout the servers day and night aren't their anymore. Gangs that would keep PD busy and fun as fuck isn't there anymore. Gangs that would rob banks, go into shoot outs, Especially Shoot outs with other gangs, muggings and shit just is missing now. Making the server harder to enjoy as their isn't as much of a thrill like there once use too.

 

[Credence]

Banned players earn their bans.

Thats not always the case.

 

[braidan]

This is a major reason, but also because they went and got themselves banned doing stupid shit. I do believe those people should be given 2nd chances however, they made the server fun.

True, I haven't played for the longest time but the main majority of friends I've made on here are banned or inactive, for whatever reason that may be. Most bans are just stupid and personally A BAN WIPE WOULD BE GREATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

 

[MrTaxi]

With some things you mentioned it is also fair to look at it through a staffs perspective as well, which I think a lot of players fail to do, and then blame staff for all the issues, which was previous stated as "We are not perfect" and nowhere close it. So let's take some of your concerns and see if we come up with a solution, here are my thoughts at least through my perspective and ill try my best to explain, and then from there, we can see if we can help solve the issues.

I don’t think enough people see this—staff members try and be fair and take sits as they come in. Their sits are probably filled up with a ton of bullshit reports made by people who neglected to read the rules and think they got ”rdm’d”. They have to treat everyone fairly, which can be an issue for you if its a really important sit, but seeing it through the eyes of staff should make you respect them more.

In regards to the quantity over quality comment, I’ve never been in a sit with a staff member who wasn’t extremely good at their job and they all knew what they were doing. There might be a lot of staff, but considering people complain about sits not being taken the increase in staff should please you.

 

[tazdevil335]

I mean I am banned. But I got myself banned to take a break. Mono just does not hit like it used to. hopefully when I come back I'll feel that way towards it again.

Stuff like this does not help the server, it ruins the experience for players and staff, that's more sits the staff has to take, this is more refund requests that need to be made.


A lot of players do this when they leave like MRDM, then 2-3 weeks later they decide to make an appeal saying "oh I didn't think I wanted to come back" and then players say we are being too harsh and need to unban players to increase our player count. Sorry but if you are a player who is going to MRDM just because you don't want to play or didn't get your way, then your not a player we want playing on our server.

So in total players (not puvz in particular just happened to bring it up) by breaking a rule ends up being a lot more time than staff has to dedicate their time to.
Let's give a basic scenario, lets say a player broke a rule for RDM and the situation needs to be voided.
- Ticket had to be reviewed and sit needed to be taken, 10 minutes including staff looking at the video, maybe logs.
- Alternatively, let's say it was taken on the forums that could be a much longer process of waiting for responses and video evidence. 20 minutes reviewing.
- If any arguing is done or players want you to "Copy and paste the rule" could be another 5 minutes of the situation.
- No SA+ on which means a refund request needs to be made for the voided items that were lost, which means now that the player takes 5 minutes making a report, the SA takes 5-10 minutes reviewing the report looking at logs, and having to wait for the admin to make a reply confirming the situation.
- Then the SA has to issue a refund in 1-2 minutes.

So a ticket is not a quick 5-minute thing, some might be but not many. Plus this doesn't account for if an appeal is then made, or punishment was given, staff report was made, player reports, along with a long list of things that come along with staffing is not just being on duty in the server, so please keep that in mind.

 

[Credence]

Anyway its not just staff thats the issue its a lot of things. the staff thing can be easily fixed