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The serious decline of player count.
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I'm sorry but this part of taz's response is just so one sided, staff are supposed to be the reason the server functions correctly. If the server is failing, it's not the players fault at all, it's the staff's.
It's like running any business, you fire all your employee's who ask for raises since they do extra work and replace them with people who slump and don't care about anything you tell them to do, so your business fails.
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I'm not buying premium anymore tbh, it's a silent protest at this point to the lengthy report response times I get. If I see it improving I will, but like there's no reason to if I am not going to be playing actively.
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Monolith is a Business, and it needs money to run and to pay its owners. A decreasing player base results in less people feeling to spend money on the game. Maybe a bigger and stronger Player base and a Server that thrives again like it once use to might just fix that as well as lead to an increase in business. Like a Business you need to provide consumers what they want and satisifie otherwise you'd have a decrease in business.
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think its silly to say its all the staff fault and not players fault too. frag hungry people turn people away from the server (new players) just as much as bad staff experiences. some poor new player getting mugged or raided for tomates just ruins their experience and they will leave and go somewhere else
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The fact that so many get banned due to rulebreaks suggests either desperation or overly complex rules.
To keep a consistent and strong playerbase they need to be not banned.
It seems sensible to do a rules rewrite. The server is not the same one as these rules were made for, and its a mess of amendments and precedents that no new player or normal player under pressure can navigate. If I as staff have to read and check and message superiors to check during a sit, the rules aren't clear enough.
To keep a consistent and strong playerbase they need to be not banned.
It seems sensible to do a rules rewrite. The server is not the same one as these rules were made for, and its a mess of amendments and precedents that no new player or normal player under pressure can navigate. If I as staff have to read and check and message superiors to check during a sit, the rules aren't clear enough.
A lot of this stuff here people have problems with contradict each other. First you say staff members take too long to take reports, then complain about an increase in staff. You complain in OOC about someone MRDMing and then say the staff was being too harsh. Staff is not the issue. Make up your minds.
What IS a valid point though is the RP. Cops have become way too powerful, and it’s starting to make it so that people fear for their lives or freedom when pulled over because cops will break rules and get away with it because the entire force is on their side. That makes people just fight cops or run whenever confronted, which leads to shootouts and FragRP. Plus, raids are more of a military operation than a simple drug bust. The PD is more focused on bringing everyone in that house down than doing what theyre supposed to do, arrest them. Cops need to have less power. And by no means do they need assault rifles. A vector should be the best thing they can carry. They’re supposed to keep the peace, not murder everyone. If you want to RP military ops, join an MRP server. There’s plenty of good ones. It just ruins the RP that monolith is supposed to be when people tear apart the city from the inside.
What IS a valid point though is the RP. Cops have become way too powerful, and it’s starting to make it so that people fear for their lives or freedom when pulled over because cops will break rules and get away with it because the entire force is on their side. That makes people just fight cops or run whenever confronted, which leads to shootouts and FragRP. Plus, raids are more of a military operation than a simple drug bust. The PD is more focused on bringing everyone in that house down than doing what theyre supposed to do, arrest them. Cops need to have less power. And by no means do they need assault rifles. A vector should be the best thing they can carry. They’re supposed to keep the peace, not murder everyone. If you want to RP military ops, join an MRP server. There’s plenty of good ones. It just ruins the RP that monolith is supposed to be when people tear apart the city from the inside.
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The thing that perplexes me to this day, is even when I was staff. I saw staff banning people when they could have easily just received a 1 week blacklist from weapons for the rule they broke and let them explain their reasoning in an appeal. Now if someone goes and RDM's 2 people on purpose they get banned for a month.
This is exactly what I meant by one of my replies on here. I find it crazy to me that a rule explained by PMX isn't clear to an everyday player in the rulebook or other staff, staff should not once ever have to go to higherups for help with rules.... why you ask? Because there fucking staff they are supposed to know each and every rule because there the same ones enforcing it. I always felt as if the higherups knew more or they made up rules to just keep the server and staff in tact. The server rules seriously need reworked and rewritten as I'm clearly not the only person who realized this.
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My first week back on the server in April, PMX gave me a 2 day vehicle blacklist and I swore never to VDM again from that day. Walking around everywhere is aids. That is why blacklists work better, they teach people who actively play better then just banning them.
Of course, it's one-sided, I legit said in my option...
You can possibly be putting all the blame for the server running correctly it's the players who also need to be reading the rules before playing on our servers, that's how the law works, you cannot just run around as a civ and kill people and run them over then say "well sorry I didn't see it in the rule, but can I have a verbal warning?" We have people asking for less harsh staff, then people comment that staff isn't dealing with fragrp, then people complaining about report time and blaming staff when players aren't reading the rules. Then people saying well we should unban everyone that didn't hack for more server population, but then complaining about report time like those people weren't the cause of the long report time.
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Lead to long report times, which leads to ppl commenting with harsh punishments and leads to bans, well if this is how you want the server, then you are not entitled to make a report if someone breaks a rule. You cannot have it both ways.
This ENTIRE post has become a contradiction to the next response...
YES! (To some point, not sure about the guns, I agree but that just wont happen)
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Could have been solved by a 2 week blacklist.
Different staff have different punishing options, when I was staff in a situation like that I would ask them, do you prefer a ban or a blacklist? And I would go with what they chose. I realize you guys think certain staff are two faced/two sided or just biased and break rules but that's why you report them. And yet to mention it's THE staff members fault not the whole staff team.
To be honest I think the main issue is lack of content. Everything can be traced back to that. People are breaking rules and shit because they’re bored waiting for 2.0. People leave cause they’re bored. No fault to the devs, they’re working incredibly hard on something that’s essentially volunteer work, in their free time, but once the new update comes out I’m sure tons of people will be back. Just be patient. Even after the last big update with the car bodygroups and job cosmetics and stuff TONS of people came back for a bit. Everything will work itself out, that’s just how games work. Good example is minecraft. The player base rises and falls because the updates come out once a year, but it’s still one of the best selling games of all time.
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